euro car parks

[dewsweeper]

I have faIlen foul of the above company on a privately owned car park adjacent to an Aldi store.
A fair cop, 32 mins over my time and my own fault.
However, I am incensed at a letter demanding £90 or £50 for prompt payment.
Not looking for sympathy but has anyone actually been taken to court by this company?
I just feel I would like my day in court to argue my case,not against the fine but the exceedingly high amounts, far in excess of my crime I feel.
Dewsweeper

 

[Deleted member 18121]

It's a losing battle IMO. The court wont be interested in hearing about the charges being disproportionate, only about why you shouldn't be paying the fine.

If you're in any doubt on what to do watch "cant pay we'll take it away" on Channel 5. Makes you realise the mess you can get into with this stuff.

 

[Foxholer]

I have faIlen foul of the above company on a privately owned car park adjacent to an Aldi store.
A fair cop, 32 mins over my time and my own fault.
However, I am incensed at a letter demanding £90 or £50 for prompt payment.
Not looking for sympathy but has anyone actually been taken to court by this company?
I just feel I would like my day in court to argue my case,not against the fine but the exceedingly high amounts, far in excess of my crime I feel.
Dewsweeper

Advice in every instance I've seen of people asking about what to do with this lot is to ignore it - and the increasingly threatening correspondence.

Do a Google of Euro Car Parks and you will see many articles on the unenforceability of their 'fines' which are actually invoices.

 

[fripnchips]

Theres a website called pepipoo or along those lines (will come up in google i'm sure) who has a forum that was very helpful in trying to get away with my fine (not euro car parks). Maybe worth a look? Sorry if i'm not supposed to link to other sites..

 

[Rooter]

Advice in every instance I've seen of people asking about what to do with this lot is to ignore it - and the increasingly threatening correspondence.

Do a Google of Euro Car Parks and you will see many articles on the unenforceability of their 'fines' which are actually invoices.

I thought the latest advice was DO NOT ignore it? something to do with a change in the law, you must contact them, even if its to say you are not paying it, or appealing etc. Latest i saw, was do not ignore!

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/c...rking-ticket-on-private-land-what-can-you-do/

More here: http://www.parkingcowboys.co.uk/appeal-or-ignore/

 

[Tarkus1212]

Your argument against the size of the "fine" is perfectly valid. The parking company would have to demonstrate a material loss. In reality this is the parking fee that you denied them by leaving your car in the space over the time you had paid for. However if you could demonstrate that the car park was less than full you might even have an argument that you have not denied them any parking fee at all. They could also claim an admin fee for having to write to you. Their argument will be that when you entered the car park you also entered into a contract and that the signs in the car park were displayed and clear in telling you that a penalty would be incurred if you stayed over time. Some clever lawyers are arguing that you have not entered into any contract, you certainly haven't signed one.

www.pepipoo.com is worth a visit before you part with any money.

 

[SaintHacker]

Check out Pepipoo or the Consumer Action Group forum. THis is not a fine, its a speculative invoice. They cannot legally fine you, only the police or the council can do that. Take the advice on the websites above and fight it, if you follow the instructions you will win.

 

[Hobbit]

Your argument against the size of the "fine" is perfectly valid. The parking company would have to demonstrate a material loss. In reality this is the parking fee that you denied them by leaving your car in the space over the time you had paid for. However if you could demonstrate that the car park was less than full you might even have an argument that you have not denied them any parking fee at all. They could also claim an admin fee for having to write to you. Their argument will be that when you entered the car park you also entered into a contract and that the signs in the car park were displayed and clear in telling you that a penalty would be incurred if you stayed over time. Some clever lawyers are arguing that you have not entered into any contract, you certainly haven't signed one.

www.pepipoo.com is worth a visit before you part with any money.

I argued the line on material loss and won. The carpark was half empty.

And some clever Solicitors would argue that it is an inferred contract. Trying to be clever with the law isn't wise. Best just stick to unarguable facts.

 

[Foxholer]

I thought the latest advice was DO NOT ignore it? something to do with a change in the law, you must contact them, even if its to say you are not paying it, or appealing etc. Latest i saw, was do not ignore!

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/c...rking-ticket-on-private-land-what-can-you-do/

More here: http://www.parkingcowboys.co.uk/appeal-or-ignore/

That seems to refute the previous advice - so I withdraw my 'every piece of advice....' statement!

The appeals process referred to/advertised seem the way to go! Definitely excessive charge imo.

 

[Hobbit]

I argued the line on material loss and won. The carpark was half empty.

And some clever Solicitors would argue that it is an inferred contract. Trying to be clever with the law isn't wise. Best just stick to unarguable facts.

"Material loss" has been winding me up. Its sometimes known as consequential loss. If the consequence of your actions leads to a material loss by the owner..... I'll relax now.

 

[BrizoH71]

Unless you got the parking charge in Scotland, in which case bin it... they are unenforceable in Scotland under Scottish Law.

 

[chrisd]

Join pepipoo and follow their advice to the letter. You will be advised to write to the parking company and refute the invoice (that's all it is). You will ask for a POPLA number and they will guide you through the appeal process. Done right you shouldn't lose and if you do then you can refuse to pay and ask them to take you to court if they want. The main argument is on the grounds of GPOEL = genuine pre estimate of losses which a £90 invoice for 37 minutes isn't

 

[Tashyboy]

Wife filled in a form off the net by I think Martin Lewis and won her case no problems.