Emergency - Away score???

[adamk15]

Hi on thursday I played in a Junior Scottish Masters Qualifier (incidently I played very bad and NR'd). However I have been working the last few days and have been unable to put in my away score to the secretary (he is only in from 10 - 4).

Later on today I have a stableford competition at my home club. My handicap is 20.4 so should go up to 20.5 (21) but the secretary isn't in on Sundays so I'm unable to update my handicap. My question is - will I be allowed to play in the competition? And if so of what handicap?

Thanks to anyone that can reply.

 

[DCB]

I think your safest bet is to play of your existing hcp and let the secretary worry about anything else after your handicap has been adjusted. Get your away score in today, leave a note for him, and he should adjust you accordingly.

You don't want to be DGd for playing off too high a handicap.


play well now,

 

[Dodger]

I'd would say you play off 21.

 

[birdieman]

Until the Match and Handicap Secretary has officially changed your handicap play off the lower one.
You can be DQ'd if you put in 21 without it being approved formally.

 

[adamk15]

Okay thanks for the help I'll play of 20.

Here's hoping I don't become 2nd by count-back

I'll catch the secretary as soon as I can

 

[Dodger]

That is not my understanding,you are responsible for playing off the correct one,if you are 20.4 and go up point 1 you play off 21 next day likewise if you shoot a score to get cut 1.2 you would play the next day off 19.

 

[Tommo21]

I would play off 21. I play away scores at least 20 times a year and it’s my responsibility to look after my HC and there are times when I alter it myself before any official notification goes to my home club.

 

[Dodger]

Exactly that Tommo.

 

[bunkered]

you cant put your own handicap up, you can only put it down, dodger, i thought somebody playing of your handicap would know this.

 

[adamk15]

Hmmm okay... seems I've started up a wee debate here.

I know what I'll do, I'll ask my junior convenor when I get there. Atleast I know I can play haha.

 

[Dodger]

I disagree......if he doesn't play off 21 he's plying off a false handicap irrespective if he is higher or lower than he should be it is false.

 

[bunkered]

Adam you will be dq if you play of 21

 

[Dodger]

Bunkered,totally and utterly incorrect.What is the justification in a DQ? Playing off the CORRECT handicap?!

 

[bunkered]

Because he has not yet returned his away score, so his club has not put his handicap up yet, you can only cut your handicap you cant put it up.

 

[Dodger]

As I've have said,incorrect.I suggest you check up on the facts.

 

[Tommo21]

Because he has not yet returned his away score, so his club has not put his handicap up yet, you can only cut your handicap you cant put it up.

Not for me, at my second club if I play a bad medal round on the saturday and my HC needs to go up .1 to 5.5. (it's happened a couple of times this year) I then play a medal at my home course on the sunday at that new HC of 6. On the sunday when I'm finished, or before I start, I give my away score to one of the HC committee............long before they're notified officially. Oh, it's the same if it goes the other way, if I need cut. The only time there can be a difference, and this is where I need to be careful, is when I run up a bad score at one hole, say an 8 at a par 4, that 8 is rounded down to a 6, which can take me into the buffer zone.

 

[davidy233]

As I've have said,incorrect.I suggest you check up on the facts.

Here's the facts

The following is an extract from the Unified Handicapping System issued by
CONGU

8.5/1 Upward Self Adjustment of Playing Handicap

Q. Prior to playing in any competition, I am required by Clause 8.5 to ascertain that all
appropriate reductions to Playing Handicap have been made. As a player who keeps
track of my Exact Handicap at all times why am I not allowed, by the same principle, to
increase my handicap where appropriate?

A. The Rules of Golf require that a player plays from the correct handicap. If a handicap
is entered on the scorecard lower than the player’s actual handicap, the score is
acceptable for competition purposes. If the player plays from a handicap higher than
that to which he is entitled he is disqualified. The self-reducing procedures set out in
Clause 20.11 following the return of a score resulting in a handicap reduction are
designed to remove the possibility of disqualification in a subsequent competition
through playing from too high a handicap.

‘Self-increasing’, however, following the return of a score(s) above the Buffer Zone has a
number of issues:
The player does not always know precisely his Exact Handicap.
Upward movement of the CSS can result in a change to the player’s Buffer Zone that he
may not be aware of, resulting in the player incorrectly increasing his handicap and
possibly being in the embarrassing position of winning a prize to which he is not entitled.

Consequently to safeguard the player and preserve the integrity of
handicapping, increases in handicap may only be made by a player’s Home Club
after scores have been duly reported.

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[Tommo21]

‘Self-increasing’, however, following the return of a score(s) above the Buffer Zone has a
number of issues:
The player does not always know precisely his Exact Handicap.
Upward movement of the CSS can result in a change to the player’s Buffer Zone that he
may not be aware of, resulting in the player incorrectly increasing his handicap and
possibly being in the embarrassing position of winning a prize to which he is not entitled.

Consequently to safeguard the player and preserve the integrity of
handicapping, increases in handicap may only be made by a player’s Home Club
after scores have been duly reported.



Is the above for the one's who dont know how it works, or is it solid info that you can't change it?????

 

[bunkered]

Perhaps dodger and tommo need to learn the rules or is it another case of category one guy,s making up there own rules.

 

[Tommo21]

Perhaps dodger and tommo need to learn the rules or is it another case of category one guy,s making up there own rules.

No, thats a smart remark of which I take offence, it's the case of me playing off the correct HC and my home club have no problem with it. I've been up and down from 5 to 6 and back a few times this year. I can play as many as 5 medal rounds in an 8 day slot. 3 of them can be away scores so I need to keep on top of it.

Tell me the other cases you mention or is that just a snipe.