Electric DIY question

[vkurup]

As we are house moving, we are planning to take the bathroom mirror with us. The mirror has small light which is connected to the mains via a 2 piece wire. There is connector box at the back of the wire, where the wire from the wall connects to the wiring on the mirror. The small bulb itself is switched on via a pull chord.

When we take the mirror off, I will need to disconnect the wall wire from the connector box. I am not planning to leave the live cables hanging mid air (esp since it is directly above the sink). I could use electric insulation tape or is there a better way. I am also assuming that I dont need to get an electric certificate for this..

 

[Foxholer]

Yeah. Unless it has huge sentimental value, just leave the bleeding thing where it is!

It won't look/work quite the same as it currently does and will simply 'P' your incoming (if you have them) off! :angry:

Far more hassle than it's worth! :mmm:

 

[la_lucha]

What Foxholer says imo. The mirror probably costs £30 from B+Q. In the scheme of things, it's not expensive and it's not worth the hassle. You may not have wiring at the new house so it may be easier to install a standard mirror or one with a battery powered light.

 

[NorfolkShaun]

There is no real way to make this safe without fitting a replacement suitable bathroom lamp. This should do the trick http://www.screwfix.com/p/fluorescent-low-energy-shaver-light-white-2-pin-11w/35363

The other way would be to trace where the cable comes from and disconnect the other end making the cable safe then either remove the cable from the wall or cut off short and make good the wall.

Be aware that electricity is very dangerous and you should not carry out live work at any time and should prove dead prior to any work being carried out.

 

[vkurup]

I think the Mrs is more senti about it rather than me. Also the buyers ran rings around us and delayed the process into Dec and manage to pee off everyone in the chain (as they are bottom of the chain).. Mrs is more keen to give to charity rather than give to the buyers.

I havent checked if our new bathrooms have mirrors.

 

[NorfolkShaun]

I do understand taking it, the tough thing is making it safe if someone got hurt you would be quite likely to end up in serious trouble, I think the best way is to fit a shaver light to replace the mirror

 

[CliveW]

In Scotland anything permanently connected is a fixture and deemed part of the fabric of the property. This includes light fittings. Unless specified in the missives it should be left. If your purchasers are already nit picking, leave it.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Personally, even if they have cheesed everyone off and kept things waiting, it does sound a little pedantic to be wanting to remove it. I'd leave it and start again with a nice clean slate

 

[BTatHome]

The only thing your allowed to do in England is like for like replacements. Except in kitchen/bathroom, or outside. Taking a mirror down and replacing with something else is not like for like, similarly taking something down and leaving live wires (and they will be live unless you intend isolating the circuit) would not be a great idea .... and it wouldn't be too far fetched to envisage a very bad set of circumstances that would see you being responsible for something very serious.

 

[vkurup]

The only thing your allowed to do in England is like for like replacements. Except in kitchen/bathroom, or outside. Taking a mirror down and replacing with something else is not like for like, similarly taking something down and leaving live wires (and they will be live unless you intend isolating the circuit) would not be a great idea .... and it wouldn't be too far fetched to envisage a very bad set of circumstances that would see you being responsible for something very serious.

Good point.. Looks like our new house has lights & shaver socket mirrors, so may just persuade HID to leave it there.

1) We are planning to take our bedroom lights and replace them with ceiling roses/pendant ligths (as the new house has some basic lights). http://www.screwfix.com/p/british-general-6-pendant-set-white-pack-of-5/81746 Assume that is ok.

2) We have some wall fixed shelvings that we plan to take. Have started taking some of these down. Will put polyfilla into the newly created holes and sand it down. No plans to paint over - so they will have a few multicolored wall points. Again assume that it is ok..

 

[BTatHome]

Replacing a light fitting should not be a problem ... so long as your competent to do it safely.

Of course all of this assumes that your contract doesn't mentioend the items mentioned.

 

[Rooter]

I would say (although I am no expert) that changing anything electrical within a bathroom will require a part P cert. Bathrooms and kitchens have more stringent rules and guidelines,

see below: Depends on how close said mirror is to bath/shower.. So to wrap up, just leave it.

Notifiable work
2.5 Electrical installation work that is notifiable is set out in regulation 12(6A) – see examples of Notifiable and Non-notifiable work at the end of this document.
12.-(6A) A person intending to carry out building work in relation to which Part P of Schedule 1 imposes a requirement, is required to give a building notice or deposit full plans (except if (a) is applied or the work is under (b) as per Notification of work above). Notification is required where work consists of –
a. The installation of a new circuit.
b. The replacement of a consumer unit (fuse board).
c. Any addition or alteration to existing circuits in a special location.
In this regulation “special location” means –
a. Within a room containing a bath or shower, the space surrounding a bath tap or shower head, where the space extends –
1. Vertically from the finished floor level to –
i. a height of 2.25 metres; or
ii. the position of the shower head where it is attached to a wall or ceiling at a point higher than 2.25 metres from that level; and
2. Horizontally –
i. where there is a bath tub or shower tray, from the edge of the bath tub or shower tray to a distance of 0.6 metres; or
ii. where there is no bath tub or shower tray, from the centre point of the shower head where it is attached to the wall or ceiling to a distance of 1.2 metres;

 

[vkurup]

the contracts exclude the fittings... I am assuming I am mildly competent - I put them up in the first place about 7 years ago..

 

[Slime]

I think the Mrs is more senti about it rather than me. Also the buyers ran rings around us and delayed the process into Dec and manage to pee off everyone in the chain (as they are bottom of the chain).. Mrs is more keen to give to charity rather than give to the buyers.

I havent checked if our new bathrooms have mirrors.

Leave the mirror where it is. They'll probably want to change it anyway, considering all the scratches it has on it .


Slime.