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Simple enough question. Does you pro use YouTube during his lessons or rely solely on showing you the drills or moves that he wants you to do by himself?

It isn't uncommon as I read it here quite often that a customer can leave a lesson not fully understanding what they have learnt and more importantly, what they should be working on before the next lesson.

Pretty much every drill you could give, with new ones being created are uploaded daily to YouTube? Does you pro guide you towards videos that are relevant to what you are working on or do they see this medium as a threat?

I know some offer a recoding of a lesson and upload those to YouTube or USB drive. I think this is fantastic and innovative. This would obviously have the drills you need to work on and also allow the customer to review certain parts they didn't fully understand within the limited time of the lesson.


Interested to hear people's experiences with this. I find mark crossfields live lessons great to watch and also people like mike Malaska and robin Symes lesson reviews insightful and really interesting.
 

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A lesson with my pro goes something like.

Hit a dozen balls as a loosener.

Have my swing videod face on and down the line.

Analysis of anything wrong and how it affects the flight/contact/direction.

Prescribe drills to correct.

If I'm struggling to understand a particular aspect he uses te swing models through V1 and YouTube to show and compare my swing or posture to theirs. A sort of you are here, try and get to here.

The latter is only used if I struggle to picture what he asks me to do though.
 

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Our pro doesn't use YouTube, doesn't use video. A while ago I offered to lend him my slo mo digital camera & teach him how to use it. Never took up my offer. As a consequence I, and likely many others, go elsewhere for our lessons.
 

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Guys from Me and My golf that I'm having lesson with are always record me at the start of the lesson and at the end ( sometimes half way thru if I cannot understand the reason behind the drills). Then they sending me email with that lesson and comment about what we were working on and what i need to focus before the next lesson. What I do like about using videos is that when I have 2-3 weeks in between lesson I can record myself and email them with a footage to check if I am practicing correctly or old habits snicking inn.
 

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Guys from Me and My golf that I'm having lesson with are always record me at the start of the lesson and at the end ( sometimes half way thru if I cannot understand the reason behind the drills). Then they sending me email with that lesson and comment about what we were working on and what i need to focus before the next lesson. What I do like about using videos is that when I have 2-3 weeks in between lesson I can record myself and email them with a footage to check if I am practicing correctly or old habits snicking inn.


Good to hear. As they have a wealth of YouTube video drills, do they ever recommend any of those to you?
 

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Mine will look at the clips from our last lesson, although it may be 6 months ago, and then he'll video the end of the lesson and Email a short clip with an over view of the changes being made and the drills we're working on.
 

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Good to hear. As they have a wealth of YouTube video drills, do they ever recommend any of those to you?
Sometimes they do. Good thing about it as well is that I can always come back to my old lessons and watch them again.
They are specific to me so not only you can see your progress but if old habits sneaking in you build your own database.
 

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I guess you mean video rather than YouTube. In 4 lessons he took one video of me to show me a specific thing that was difficult to understand otherwise. He took 2 of the girlfriend, but for different things.

Basically, he does it as needed rather than doing it to show he can.
 

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No not just the use of video but does he just show you drills or show you YouTube videos of drills that allow you to refresh what you have learnt during the lesson.

The drills are online. Its obvious some people are still confused when they leave not just about drills but the actual content of the lesson.


It could be something as simple as

Lesson 1. Pro shows you the grip then recommends a good video to log in your favourites on YouTube
Lesson 2. Stance. Again video to refer back to
Lesson 3.

So on and so forth.


We all know people slip into old habits, forget what they are told. Don't have time to practice what they have learnt. Surely it would benefit the pro and player to have a check list of videos that they build together and allow the player to refer back to as time passes.

It would benefit the player greatly and also the pro wouldn't be bored going over the same old problems.
 

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Mine will look at the clips from our last lesson, although it may be 6 months ago, and then he'll video the end of the lesson and Email a short clip with an over view of the changes being made and the drills we're working on.

Pretty much that. To be honest, though my pro doesn't use video as much as other teaching pros I've been to. He does however have a good eye and is well known and well respected locally. We do have the option of using a dedicated bay with all the monitors and gadgets but usually just use a bay on the range
 

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No, just videos it on his tablet then shows you the errors, tells you what to do and to go away and practice.
 

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The one you posted the other week about swaying on the back swing has been one of the single biggest and best fixes I have ever been given. :thup:

I was just passing on what someone told me. To quote mark Crossfield, the more we talk and share about these things, the easier its get for everybody.
 

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Pretty much that. To be honest, though my pro doesn't use video as much as other teaching pros I've been to. He does however have a good eye and is well known and well respected locally. We do have the option of using a dedicated bay with all the monitors and gadgets but usually just use a bay on the range

This is kind of what I am talking about. You have had plenty of lessons and by your own admission slip into old habits like poor posture etc. don't you think if he had given you a check list of videos to refer to you could have nailed down and also fix faults that you have covered before.

That means you wouldn't have to keep going over the same things and you could fix faults as and when they arise.

Another example was Huds. He came on here asking for advice after having a series of lessons. pretty sure somewhere down the line the pro must have addressed his grip. It was clear from the videos it was super weak and causing problems. If had a check list of videos to refer to he could have sorted that quite quickly himself.
 

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He is one with a million videos covering pretty much everything. Did he recommend any of videos to watch relating to his lesson.

Nope, but he made one directly after with exactly what we had covered in the lesson.

And he did use a YouTube clip of Michelle Wie's swing during the lesson, to show me what he wanted me to change (or maybe he just did that because he wanted an excuse to look at Michelle Wie :D)
 

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This is kind of what I am talking about. You have had plenty of lessons and by your own admission slip into old habits like poor posture etc. don't you think if he had given you a check list of videos to refer to you could have nailed down and also fix faults that you have covered before.

That means you wouldn't have to keep going over the same things and you could fix faults as and when they arise.

Another example was Huds. He came on here asking for advice after having a series of lessons. pretty sure somewhere down the line the pro must have addressed his grip. It was clear from the videos it was super weak and causing problems. If had a check list of videos to refer to he could have sorted that quite quickly himself.

Totally disagree I'm afraid. Listen to pros on TV talk and many will say that they've been working on addressing old faults regarding posture etc. It's an ongoing issue with a lot of club golfers, getting the basics right regularly and I don't see any need to keep referring to videos regarding this. They don't tell me anything I don't know I should be doing. If anything I feel they are going to confuse the issue.
 

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This is kind of what I am talking about. You have had plenty of lessons and by your own admission slip into old habits like poor posture etc. don't you think if he had given you a check list of videos to refer to you could have nailed down and also fix faults that you have covered before.

That means you wouldn't have to keep going over the same things and you could fix faults as and when they arise.

Another example was Huds. He came on here asking for advice after having a series of lessons. pretty sure somewhere down the line the pro must have addressed his grip. It was clear from the videos it was super weak and causing problems. If had a check list of videos to refer to he could have sorted that quite quickly himself.

I'm guessing the pro wants people to come back to him for lessons to earn a living though!?

He could refer everyone to YouTube who then use those instead of booking in lessons with him?

Maybe not, referring people to a free source of the information they are paying you for probably not the smartest business model though.....
 
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