Does this scenario incur a penalty shot?

[Tongo]

So i was playing this afternoon, went to address the ball in the light rough and the ball rolled forward slightly. I hadnt grounded the club but the club did touch the grass. Does that incur a penalty shot?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

If the club touches the grass surely that's grounding the club ?

 

[Tongo]

If the club touches the grass surely that's grounding the club ?

Dunno. I'm not too good on the minutiae of these things!

 

[Kellfire]

You've caused it to move, a definite penalty.

 

[Tongo]

You've caused it to move, a definite penalty.

I thought that might be the case. Just needed clarification.

 

[backwoodsman]

You simply have to ask yourself "did I cause the ball to move?" If you answer yes, then add a penalty stroke, replace the ball and play on. Rule 18/2

In the scenario you describe, I think you'd be fooling yourself to say it wasn't you that caused the ball to move.

 

[Kellfire]

Many people forget to replace the ball when this happens and if that came out after the round... uh oh....

 

[Tongo]

Many people forget to replace the ball when this happens and if that came out after the round... uh oh....

I forgot to replace the ball!

 

[Kellfire]

I forgot to replace the ball!

I hope the competition is closed?

 

[Tongo]

I hope the competition is closed?

The scores are still being counted in the 'Tongo Friday night after work Twilight Open.'

I think i've lost though! :lol:

 

[Kellfire]

The scores are still being counted in the 'Tongo Friday night after work Twilight Open.'

I think i've lost though! :lol:

I hope you can sleep at night!


In all seriousness, how often do you think in the average competition people playing from the rough have exactly the scenario you describe where the ball only moves a fraction and they think, "Ach sure it's a worse lie now anyway, sitting down further" and just play on.

I'd bet it's one of the most ignored penalties.

 

[rickg]

If the club touches the grass surely that's grounding the club ?

Not necessarily Phil. The definition of grounding the club (in particular with regard to long grass in a hazard, but could equally be applied in normal play) is:

"When the grass is compressed to the point where it will support the weight of the club"

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Not necessarily Phil. The definition of grounding the club (in particular with regard to long grass in a hazard, but could equally be applied in normal play) is:

"When the grass is compressed to the point where it will support the weight of the club"

Ah right -cheers for that :thup:

 

[Robobum]

I hope you can sleep at night!


In all seriousness, how often do you think in the average competition people playing from the rough have exactly the scenario you describe where the ball only moves a fraction and they think, "Ach sure it's a worse lie now anyway, sitting down further" and just play on.

I'd bet it's one of the most ignored penalties.

This!!! A lot!!!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I hope you can sleep at night!


In all seriousness, how often do you think in the average competition people playing from the rough have exactly the scenario you describe where the ball only moves a fraction and they think, "Ach sure it's a worse lie now anyway, sitting down further" and just play on.

I'd bet it's one of the most ignored penalties.

Right up there with telling people to "take your time"

 

[Smiffy]

So i was playing this afternoon, went to address the ball in the light rough and the ball rolled forward slightly. I hadnt grounded the club but the club did touch the grass. Does that incur a penalty shot?

It depends.
Did any of your playing partners witness it?

 

[backwoodsman]

It depends.
Did any of your playing partners witness it?

No more and no less than expected from a car salesman...:lol:

But in this instance did you not notice he said he was playing with himself.

 

[Smiffy]

No more and no less than expected from a car salesman...:lol:

But in this instance did you not notice he said he was playing with himself.

Then no penalty and a cracking two under round

 

[backwoodsman]

Then no penalty and a cracking two under round

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

But in this instance did you not notice he said he was playing with himself.

If I was to do that mid-golf round I would get a bit distracted! I don't know if I would notice my ball moving slightly.