Does every club have one....?

[snell]

Evening all,

There's a fella at our place who is painfully slow. He goes out by himself every weekend, plays the game like he's playing the last round in the masters. Every putt is marked read from both sides. If he hits a tee shot OOB he reloads. Never picks up on the greens even if the ball is inches from the hole.

He was teeing off directly behind me tonight on the first...I teed off on the 8th and looked over to the 4th fairway and there he was trundling up there....I had gained 4 holes on him within 8 holes!!

My regular pp ended up getting into a heated exchange with him a few weeks ago because of his slow play and his reluctance to let us through!!

So just wondering if your club has a numpty like him??

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Evening all,

There's a fella at our place who is painfully slow. He goes out by himself every weekend, plays the game like he's playing the last round in the masters. Every putt is marked read from both sides. If he hits a tee shot OOB he reloads. Never picks up on the greens even if the ball is inches from the hole.

He was teeing off directly behind me tonight on the first...I teed off on the 8th and looked over to the 4th fairway and there he was trundling up there....I had gained 4 holes on him within 8 holes!!

My regular pp ended up getting into a heated exchange with him a few weeks ago because of his slow play and his reluctance to let us through!!

So just wondering if your club has a numpty like him??

Oh yes. A couple. And they have been 'warned'. Think one might have left.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Yep. Group goes out in front of our roll up, usually with a 15-20 minute gap ans usually our first gap have caught them by the 4th. Never a chance of getting let through and each putt holed out and even the walk to the ball is a long casual saunter with no purpose

 

[Hosel Fade]

Not that I have noticed the same player being stupidly slow, everyone knows who the slowest players in the roll up are but its just about ok.

 

[craigstardis1976]

I know this is a problem in the USA r: slow play but in the UK can you just not tell them look if you do not let us play through, we are just going to do so anyway. You are in the wrong, you have bneen asked politely, refused, now you are being told. If you do not like it, take it up with the clubhouse?

 

[Bazz]

I know this is a problem in the USA r: slow play but in the UK can you just not tell them look if you do not let us play through, we are just going to do so anyway. You are in the wrong, you have bneen asked politely, refused, now you are being told. If you do not like it, take it up with the clubhouse?

British mate, doesn't work like that. We like to mutter to ourselves and do absolutely nothing about it.

 

[srixon 1]

British mate, doesn't work like that. We like to mutter to ourselves and do absolutely nothing about it.

Or vent off on some anonymous forum.

 

[craigstardis1976]

British mate, doesn't work like that. We like to mutter to ourselves and do absolutely nothing about it.

I mean this as a compliment but I can see British people doing this more readily than Americans!!

 

[snell]

Or vent off on some anonymous forum.

I'm not venting as such

As I mentioned in the op people have pulled him on this but it's had zero effect...the committee are also more than aware of him.

I'm more amazed than anything that I managed to make 4 holes on him in the time frame.

 

[Imurg]

Had a youngish guy at my last club that we nicknamed Cobweb - he moved so slowly that spiders could spin a web on him..
He used to play solo with his old man caddying for him..
I tried walking at the same speed and just couldn't keep my balance...No idea how stays upright...

 

[Capella]

We have a regular fourball that's notorious for slow play. They ususally go out Sundays around noonish. We still have a "fourball takes priority over a threeball" rule in place on the weekends, so they don't feel obliged to let anyone through ever. Two of them normally share a buggy, the other two walk ... well, waddle would be the more fitting term. Since everyone knows them, it has become common practice to go and have another cup of coffee if you see them teeing off, because it is really not worth going out after them unless you give them at least a 30 to 45 min head start.

 

[USER1999]

We have a two ball on Friday afternoon. A while ago, i was in a two, teeing off on 14, while they were on the 18th tee. We played a long par 4, a short par 4, a par 3, a medium par 4, and two shots down the par 5 18th, and then had to wait for them to clear the green. Mental. They must take about 8 hours for a round.

 

[PCWOX]

We have a regular fourball that's notorious for slow play. They ususally go out Sundays around noonish. We still have a "fourball takes priority over a threeball" rule in place on the weekends, so they don't feel obliged to let anyone through ever. Two of them normally share a buggy, the other two walk ... well, waddle would be the more fitting term. Since everyone knows them, it has become common practice to go and have another cup of coffee if you see them teeing off, because it is really not worth going out after them unless you give them at least a 30 to 45 min head start.

Is it common practice in Germany to not let people through? Myself and my brother were stuck behind a 4 ball of Germans at Oitavos Dunes in Portugal last year. We were waiting for a few holes and they simply would not let us through. Eventually the course marshal made them do it. As we went past them, they looked really angry and were muttering to themselves. I was stunned!

 

[Marshy77]

Evening all,

There's a fella at our place who is painfully slow. He goes out by himself every weekend, plays the game like he's playing the last round in the masters. Every putt is marked read from both sides. If he hits a tee shot OOB he reloads. Never picks up on the greens even if the ball is inches from the hole.

He was teeing off directly behind me tonight on the first...I teed off on the 8th and looked over to the 4th fairway and there he was trundling up there....I had gained 4 holes on him within 8 holes!!

My regular pp ended up getting into a heated exchange with him a few weeks ago because of his slow play and his reluctance to let us through!!

So just wondering if your club has a numpty like him??

What would happen if he was holding you/the course up, refused to let anyone play through but you played through anyway? I can understand him taking his time if he can, that's not a problem if he isn't holding anyone up but if he's holding people up then it is a problem.

 

[User62651]

Part of the human condition, some poeple have no manners or respect for others and consider no-one but themselves in any given situation. Quite often the person holds a position of office at the club unfortunately and wants people to know it. Fourballs are the worst...obviously.

Truthfully little you can do if someone won't let you through (unless there are course marhsalls enforcing). You might get agitated but if you do play through without agreement from ahead you're at serious risk of ending up in a fight or hurting someone and ending up in court.

Personally if people are quicker than me on the golf course I will let them through quickly, cannot abide with 'tailgaters' and would rather get them out of sight out of mind so I can focus and enjoy the game more.

 

[cookelad]

We've got a group that no matter what time you tee off they're right in front of you (at least it seems that way!) and every week we make the comment on the first tee "Feel free to let us through as soon as you're ready", they're quite capable of losing 3-4 holes in the group in front and somehow their numbers are growing!!!

Had the joy of getting out in front of them a few weeks back only to find out I was in what turned out to be a really slow group, so, when they caught us I'm not ashamed to say I held up waving them through for a hole before letting them go.

 

[Capella]

Is it common practice in Germany to not let people through? Myself and my brother were stuck behind a 4 ball of Germans at Oitavos Dunes in Portugal last year. We were waiting for a few holes and they simply would not let us through. Eventually the course marshal made them do it. As we went past them, they looked really angry and were muttering to themselves. I was stunned!

It is not as common to let groups through as it is in the UK or other places I have played. And because many German players are not as used to it, it completely throws them off their game (this is also true when they are the ones being called through, btw). From my experience, the only instance when a group will consider letting a faster group through, is when they actually catch them up while they are still on the tee of the next hole (and preferably have not even teed off yet). I think there are mainly three reasons for this. The first is simply German stubbornness ("I paid for this round and this is my place and I have a right to it"), the second is that Germany has a lot of golfer who start golf late in life and have no former experience with it whatsoever. They normally take order of play very seriously and will only move up to the ball of the player furthest back (even if their own ball is way to the side and they could well go to it and prepare for their own shot while waiting). Also they have very little feel for how far a player much better than themselves can hit the ball. So when they are leaving the green and look back and the group behind them seems to be far back, they don't get the feeling that they might be holding them up, because they just can't fathom that somebody would want to attack the green from 200 m behind, when their own longest shot is just about half that. And last but not least it is the fourball before threeball before twoball (individual players have no right of play at all) policy which has been in effect in most German golf clubs at least for busier times. That leads to a fourball normally feeling that they have more right to be on the course and take their time than a threeball or twoball coming up behind them. I experience that at my homeclub quite often. Whenever I suggest letting a fast twoball through, my playing partners will refuse and state that they can group up with the next twoball behind them (if there is one) or that they just have to wait their term, because it's Sunday and Sundays is for fourballs It drives me nutts, because I hate feeling pressured by a group behind (even if they don't actively push) when I know that I am holding them off.

 

[patricks148]

We have couple. one of the worst is a guy that plays on his own a lot, don't get me wrong he is a good player off 3 at least. But is so slow he is capable of holding a 4 ball up. Luckily he does let people play though... most of the time. downside is getting drawn with him in a comp. You would then be looking at a 4 and a half hour round or longer.

The other problem is people trail out the old line, "there's no where to go" when a 4 ball hold up a single or a 2 ball. Yes there is "in front of you"

People on the whole don't or won't understand pace of play and letting faster groups though.

 

[PCWOX]

It is not as common to let groups through as it is in the UK or other places I have played. And because many German players are not as used to it, it completely throws them off their game (this is also true when they are the ones being called through, btw). From my experience, the only instance when a group will consider letting a faster group through, is when they actually catch them up while they are still on the tee of the next hole (and preferably have not even teed off yet). I think there are mainly three reasons for this. The first is simply German stubbornness ("I paid for this round and this is my place and I have a right to it"), the second is that Germany has a lot of golfer who start golf late in life and have no former experience with it whatsoever. They normally take order of play very seriously and will only move up to the ball of the player furthest back (even if their own ball is way to the side and they could well go to it and prepare for their own shot while waiting). Also they have very little feel for how far a player much better than themselves can hit the ball. So when they are leaving the green and look back and the group behind them seems to be far back, they don't get the feeling that they might be holding them up, because they just can't fathom that somebody would want to attack the green from 200 m behind, when their own longest shot is just about half that. And last but not least it is the fourball before threeball before twoball (individual players have no right of play at all) policy which has been in effect in most German golf clubs at least for busier times. That leads to a fourball normally feeling that they have more right to be on the course and take their time than a threeball or twoball coming up behind them. I experience that at my homeclub quite often. Whenever I suggest letting a fast twoball through, my playing partners will refuse and state that they can group up with the next twoball behind them (if there is one) or that they just have to wait their term, because it's Sunday and Sundays is for fourballs It drives me nutts, because I hate feeling pressured by a group behind (even if they don't actively push) when I know that I am holding them off.

Thanks for the explanation. Very interesting to read about different habits to what we are used to in the UK :thup:

 

[Crazyface]

Me and a couple on mate go on a golf trip every year and as soon as ANYONE is behind we have to let them through, they panic you see. I stood up to them one year as they wanted to let a group of old dears through. "Seriously???? THEY ARE 100 IF THEY ARE A DAY. I'll chuck my clubs away if we let them though".