Dilemma

[bozza]

Went up to a local range the other night to try out some new irons, ended up trying the new AP2, MP 54 and the JPX EZ forged.

Narrowed it down to the MP 54 and the JPX, i hit them both well, the JPX does seem to come off the face quicker and goes further but the lofts are slightly strong so that would explain it but i don't really like the look of them, it's not that they are ugly but next to the 54's but the 54's are a work of art and the feel from the 54's is like nothing i've felt before in a iron.

Now here is the problem, i've booked in to get fitted for the 54's on Sunday and i'm having some doubts, the 54's are supposed to be a "better players iron" which going by my h/c they shouldn't be for me even though i do strike my irons well (better than my h/c suggests) and had no problem at the range with them no matter what shot i tried to hit with them. I'm just worried that getting out on the course with a club that is less forgiving than my current irons and a smaller head that the doubt may creep in even more and i won't be able to hit them.

So do i just stick with it and trust that i know i can do them justice or bite the bullet and go for the clubs that are aimed more at my h/c even though they aren't the ones i really want?

 

[DAVEYBOY]

If the 54's give you the right numbers in the fitting then go for them. Hit both and make the decision with the help of the fitter :thup:

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I've had the TM Tour Preferred's for a number of years, apart from the sojourn since June when I put the G25's in. I was off 14 at the end of December 2011 and so definitely way above the ideal "target" but I hit them well and got down to 10.1

If you are happy and consistent with them go for it. It may be that as you improve you'll grow into them so to speak. If you still want that safety net of forgiveness maybe wait a bit longer. It's always a tricky call and only you can answer it after hitting as many balls as you can on a range (not a net or indoor bay)

 

[bozza]

If the 54's give you the right numbers in the fitting then go for them. Hit both and make the decision with the help of the fitter :thup:

I think the JPX would give me better numbers as the lofts being 3* stronger than the 54's so i would get more distance with them but i can get the 54's bent to be 2* stronger so could always go down that route.

 

[moogie]

Bozza

The ''Right Numbers'' arent just distance figures mate
They would be spin rates , and dispersion too

Give them both a bash , and go Open-Minded

 

[DAVEYBOY]

I think the JPX would give me better numbers as the lofts being 3* stronger than the 54's so i would get more distance with them but i can get the 54's bent to be 2* stronger so could always go down that route.

No no need, I've just upgraded to Nike Pro Combos and every club is a whole club weaker than my Burners. It's only a number on the club at the end of the day. I'm glad I have weaker lofts now as before my PW was basicly a 9 iron and I had a huge distance gap from 115 up to PW 140+. My 4 iron was also only 1 degree weaker than my 3 hybrid aswell which didn't help.

Just compare the 6 iron from the 54's to the 7 iron in the JPX...

 

[bozza]

Bozza

The ''Right Numbers'' arent just distance figures mate
They would be spin rates , and dispersion too

Give them both a bash , and go Open-Minded

Aye, i can't see there being much diffrence in dispersion as i hit a lot of balls with each club and i couldn't tell/see any diffrence apart form the JPX seemed to come off the face "hotter" and went further but that will have been because of the stronger lofts.

I'm just worried that the 54's may punish me a little too much on my "off days" even though they are more foregiving than they look.

I wish i hadn't tried any now as it's got my head battered! haha.

 

[CMAC]

if you have doubts then wait!

doubts will eat away at you the first bad round or bad ball striking you have, theres no rush...it's winter.

Don't buy in haste and repent at leisure

 

[Tommo21]

No contest, the 54rs are the dogs nads, miles better than the JPX although they are nice. If you strike your irons well enough why worry about the times that you might not hit them........I still have bad days with irons.

No reason why you can't play them being a higher HC. I started playing with blades and I couldn't hit a thing.

 

[Oddsocks]

Bozza

The ''Right Numbers'' arent just distance figures mate
They would be spin rates , and dispersion too

Give them both a bash , and go Open-Minded

Ok what about upgrading you current irons to a new set of low hc irons, which on paper should be better for you, yet your at least a club shorter with the new ones and have a nasty ball flight

 

[bozza]

Ok what about upgrading you current irons to a new set of low hc irons, which on paper should be better for you, yet your at least a club shorter with the new ones and have a nasty ball flight

You have lost me, i don't know if i'm shorter or longer with the 54's untill i get fitted and the ball flight was pretty much the same as my current irons with the standard stock shaft it had in.

 

[Oddsocks]

You have lost me, i don't know if i'm shorter or longer with the 54's untill i get fitted and the ball flight was pretty much the same as my current irons with the standard stock shaft it had in.

Sorry bozza was on about my dilemma

 

[Blue in Munich]

I think the JPX would give me better numbers as the lofts being 3* stronger than the 54's so i would get more distance with them but i can get the 54's bent to be 2* stronger so could always go down that route.

Do that and you remove 2* of bounce from the sole, which could completely change the way they play from when you tested them. And looking at the 54's they've jacked the lofts in the short irons on those by a degree or two.

 

[Kellfire]

Mark,

For a 20 h/c I have never seen anyone who so rarely tops, hooks or slices his irons. You have the game for better irons so go with what you want, you'll relish the challenge. Then learn how to drive, chip and putt. Same as me.

 

[Dave B]

You'll notice the main difference in the 4, 5 and 6 irons. Personally I'd ask to take a demo iron out on the course and try it as this will tell you far more than any range fitting session.

Distance wise, if you hit the MP54 7 iron 140 yds, you won't be that different to the rest of us.

 

[bozza]

Do that and you remove 2* of bounce from the sole, which could completely change the way they play from when you tested them. And looking at the 54's they've jacked the lofts in the short irons on those by a degree or two.

Looking at the specs on the Mizuno site I wouldn't consider the short irons have jacked lofts, PW 46*, 9 iron 42* and 8 iron 38* I'd class that as "standard lofts" for a club.

 

[bozza]

You'll notice the main difference in the 4, 5 and 6 irons. Personally I'd ask to take a demo iron out on the course and try it as this will tell you far more than any range fitting session.

Distance wise, if you hit the MP54 7 iron 140 yds, you won't be that different to the rest of us.

Only problem is the range where I tried them and where I'm getting fitted at doesn't have a course and is about 10 miles from my local course so I doubt they would let me take then demo iron away with me.

 

[Allanxyz]

Personally I don't think the 54s are a massive step up from the jpx pros you already have so if you hit them well then why not. Maybe in the long irons you could think about the mp H4 in the long irons... Will be a easier to hit than the 54s on those off days.

 

[patricks148]

Have you tried the JPX 825 Pro?

I switched to these at the start of this year and they are so much easier to hit than my old MP62.

And i would guess somewhere between the MP54 and EZ.

 

[Twire]

Another option is to go for the 54's 7-PW and the JPX's 4-6 that way you'll get the forgiveness in the longer irons.