Crowned holes!

delc

delc

Blackballed
Banned
Joined
Aug 19, 2011
Messages
5,375
Location
Hertfordshire
Visit site
Today I scored a fairly average (for me) 31 points, but I had a number of putts that looked in all the way, only to deflect away in the last few inches. My playing companions also suffered in the same way. Our greens are fairly soft at the moment, so I suspect we are getting a slight depression around the hole caused by players tending the flag and retrieving balls from the hole, leaving a slightly volcano shaped hole. For friendly games only, we have been encouraged to either leave the flag in, or take it out without attending it, to minimise this problem, but it is obviously not working! My suggestion is to make the hole slightly (not massively) larger and remove the penalty for hitting the flag stick if it is in the hole. Then there would be no necessity to attend the flag for long putts, and you could putt the ball a bit more firmly at the hole without risking a lip out, so it will hold its line better. :)
 
Last edited:
There is a certain way that you should tend a flag and pick a ball out of the hole which you'll see it on the Tours by the caddies and players, If we copied what they did then we can reduce the amount of crowning around the holes..
 
delc said:
Today I scored a fairly average (for me) 31 points, but I had a number of putts that looked in all the way, only to deflect away in the last few inches. My playing companions also suffered in the same way. Our greens are fairly soft at the moment, so I suspect we are getting a slight depression around the hole caused by players tending the flag and retrieving balls from the hole, leaving a slightly volcano shaped hole. For friendly games only, we have been encouraged to either leave the flag in, or take it out without attending it, to minimise this problem, but it is obviously not working! My suggestion is to make the hole slightly (not massively) larger and remove the penalty for hitting the flag stick if it is in the hole. Then there would be no necessity to attend the flag for long putts, and you could putt the ball a bit more firmly at the hole without risking a lip out, so it will hold its line better. :)
Click to expand...

It's like a constantly repeating echo!!!!

Do you not get bored of flogging the same horse??? It's dead ffs:o
 
Not this chestnut again Del
What you are referring to isn't a crown, a crown is caused by the green keepers when they make the hole, by lifting out the new cut , the edge is higher than the surrounding land .

The hole size is fine, it isn't going to change, accept it and move on with your life
 
:D

If I could figure out a way to make money from the number of times I've heard someone blame a bad putt on a crowned hole I'd be very happy indeed.
 
PhilTheFragger said:
Not this chestnut again Del
What you are referring to isn't a crown, a crown is caused by the green keepers when they make the hole, by lifting out the new cut , the edge is higher than the surrounding land .

The hole size is fine, it isn't going to change, accept it and move on with your life
Click to expand...
Think it is a wear and tear issue, rather than any failings by our green keepers. Freshly cut holes holes seem to be OK, but the holes today hadn't been moved for a day or two. Dave Pelz refers to this problem as the 'doughnut effect'.
 
I blame the old giffers for crowning the hole because they have to be that close to the hole to be able to pick the ball out with their suction cup thingies on the end of their putters.:D
 
I've always wanted to star in a movie and now thanks to Del I feel as though I am..............

Groundhog.jpg
 

Attachments

  • DelC.jpg
    DelC.jpg
    22.9 KB · Views: 7
Baldy Bouncer said:
I blame the old giffers for crowning the hole because they have to be that close to the hole to be able to pick the ball out with their suction cup thingies on the end of their putters.:D
Click to expand...
I can assure you that I don't have a suction cup thingy on the end of my putter, even though I am a slightly old geezer! :)
 
PhilTheFragger said:
Not this chestnut again Del
What you are referring to isn't a crown, a crown is caused by the green keepers when they make the hole, by lifting out the new cut , the edge is higher than the surrounding land .

The hole size is fine, it isn't going to change, accept it and move on with your life
Click to expand...

+1 zillion to this

In fact, can I suggest that this be made an automatic reply to any post by DelC please!

Hit it with decent pace at/in the centre of the hole and it'll go in even if crowned too!

Stop blaming other things when the true fault is that you didn't hit the putt so it would go in the hole!
 
It's the same for everyone delc so what's your problem?
 
delc said:
It's not the same for everyone. Tour pros putt on perfect greens with perfectly cut holes. Club and muni golfers often don't!
Click to expand...

:rofl: I can't believe I have to pay for all my gear instead of been given it and paid to use it. That's a campaign that I could get behind!
 
delc said:
It's not the same for everyone. Tour pros putt on perfect greens with perfectly cut holes. Club and muni golfers often don't!
Click to expand...

But you are not playing with or against Tour Pro's so what is your point?

What you refer to is most likely being caused by poor maintenance of greens that are possibly too soft.
 
MetalMickie said:
But you are not playing with or against Tour Pro's so what is your point?

What you refer to is most likely being caused by poor maintenance of greens that are possibly too soft.
Click to expand...
Or idiotic players who trample around the are of the hole! As Phil posted, Crowning is caused by poor work by Greenkeepers - simply cutting/pulling the hole and not using the board that prevents this. I'm absolutely certain that Greenies use the board at this time of year as they will be acutely aware of the possibility in this weather!

The alternative, of course, is that the course is closed during periods when this condition (idiots stomping around the hole spoiling the conditions for others) could possibly arise!

Jimaroid said:
What you refer to is most likely being caused by poor putting.
Click to expand...

:thup:
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

mikejohnchapman
Backstopping - Enforcing a Player to Mark Their Ball
2
Replies
23
Views
1K
SwingsitlikeHogan
SwingsitlikeHogan
B
Can you reach?
2 3
Replies
49
Views
6K
SteveW86
SteveW86
P
9 Hole cards
Replies
19
Views
3K
Orikoru
Orikoru
clubchamp98
Attending the flag.
4 5 6
Replies
111
Views
11K
salfordlad
S
Mel Smooth
Your Best Round of the Year?
2
Replies
23
Views
3K
RedEyes
RedEyes
Top