Correct handicap NOT recorded on card

[3offTheTee]

Played in a 4BBB Stableford at another club today. When we arrived at The pro shop he was not particularly helpful and just gave us our cards with our names on and did not ask our handicaps and explained it was 3/4 handicap.

We added the details with our handicaps and 3/4 written down by me. Our opponents had their 'handicaps' written out for the BY THE CLUB.However it was strokes received and NOT their actual handicap.

This only came to light when we checked the scores after 9 holes.

What is the position and if the players' themselves had written the number of strokes received on the cardI take it that would have been their actual handicap for the day and they would then have received 3/4 of the figure they wrote down

 

[palindromicbob]

Ensuring the correct full handicap is on the card is the responsibility of the player or in the case the team. No one else. The committee is to process the card based on the full handicap and make adjustments such as 3/4 etc.

Even if the card is filled out by the committee (or club) an incorrect handicap not corrected prior to submitting the card would lead to DQ if handicap is higher than actual or left to stand of lower handicap if recorded. If individual handicaps aren't recorded for each player then it is DQ.

Decisions 6-2b/0.5 & 6-2b/4

Discovered after 9 holes then at least they had a chance to correct it.

 

[duncan mackie]

I'm not sure I understand the question being asked but if the players had not entered their handicaps on their cards when returning them they would be DQ'd.

6-2 requires the player to record their handicap on their card

6-2b/0.5 makes it clear that recording their stroke allowance, when less than full handicap, is not sufficient under 6-2

regarding the less than helpful staff, and disparity between home and away players, this certainly isn't unusual (in my experience) but can sometimes come over the wrong way too because home players have come off the clubs system and the away players are, correctly IMO, left to enter their current handicaps. worst of both worlds is when they pre print the handicap you put on the entry form 3 months previously - recipe for disaster that one!

 

[3offTheTee]

I'm not sure I understand the question being asked but if the players had not entered their handicaps on their cards when returning them they would be DQ'd.

6-2 requires the player to record their handicap on their card

6-2b/0.5 makes it clear that recording their stroke allowance, when less than full handicap, is not sufficient under 6-2

regarding the less than helpful staff, and disparity between home and away players, this certainly isn't unusual (in my experience) but can sometimes come over the wrong way too because home players have come off the clubs system and the away players are, correctly IMO, left to enter their current handicaps. worst of both worlds is when they pre print the handicap you put on the entry form 3 months previously - recipe for disaster that one!

Duncan, what I was trying to say is if what happened in this case, The Club, Committee, wrote the incorrect information on the card would it make any difference?

They probably wrote the information on for everyone but the writing was so small, if it had been written on our card I did not se it!

 

[palindromicbob]

Duncan, what I was trying to say is if what happened in this case, The Club, Committee, wrote the incorrect information on the card would it make any difference?

They probably wrote the information on for everyone but the writing was so small, if it had been written on our card I did not se it!

Makes no difference. It is up to the player/team to ensure the correct full handicaps are recorded on the card. If they aren't they should correct this before signing and submitting. Needs to be recorded individually for every player in the team. If one player records a handicap that is higher than their actual then the team is disqualified.

The committees job is to work out scores and apply the recorded handicap etc.

Rule 6-2, 6-6 and 33-5

They can record the strokes allowed etc additionally if they wish but full handicap is the requirement.

Sounds like a club that is getting it's members into bad habits.

 

[Fyldewhite]

See this at quite a few clubs. We always give players their card, with name(s) and start time only and verbally remind players to record their current handicap(s) on the card. Committee writing them on may seem helpful but is potentially making a rod for their own back by making any mistakes seem "official" and then being blamed for the players mistake.

 

[duncan mackie]

Duncan, what I was trying to say is if what happened in this case, The Club, Committee, wrote the incorrect information on the card would it make any difference?

They probably wrote the information on for everyone but the writing was so small, if it had been written on our card I did not se it!

ah - got it

as p.....bob has already confirmed, what the committee put on a card in advance is irrelevant in this context - it's the players responsibility to ensure they show their handicap on the card.