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Wish I hadn't wondered into this thread, had my booster about 2 hours ago, all good so far.....
Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?
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Ah so not a feckless policy more a people problem. Good to see politics being used by some. Its like the drip drip drip of Chinese torture.
The clocks ticking.........
Whatever soreness, or not, you may get, you are safer now
Whatever soreness, or not, you may get, you are safer now
The clocks ticking.........
Whatever soreness, or not, you may get, you are safer now
Whatever soreness, or not, you may get, you are safer now
Pleased you aren't trying to freak him out . It's a tough crowd in today
. It's a tough crowd in today 
Chris Whitty recently said something along the lines of 'Don't worry about criticism from people you wouldn't accept advice from'. I think he has it about right. I usually don't bother trying to persuade the people who post crap, because that is usually a futile task.
not quite sure what that means in the context of you saying we should give South Africa vaccines when they have more than they can use? Supply is not the issue. Totally agree that this thing is not done until we are all vaccinated
https://www.reuters.com/world/afric...cine-deliveries-inoculations-slow-2021-11-24/
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...j-j-pfizer-vaccine-delivery-delay-news24-says
https://www.washingtonpost.com/heal...ne-doses-issue-is-more-complicated-than-that/
https://www.reuters.com/world/afric...cine-deliveries-inoculations-slow-2021-11-24/
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...j-j-pfizer-vaccine-delivery-delay-news24-says
https://www.washingtonpost.com/heal...ne-doses-issue-is-more-complicated-than-that/
Pleased you aren't trying to freak him out . It's a tough crowd in today
. It's a tough crowd in today
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Just back from town and this was what we observed also. And going into our local town centre (small) Sainsbury's - member of staff at entrance handing out masks to all who were coming in without one on.
I would worry if the vaccine batch number ends with 999
🚨 Source - Politics for all.
🚨🚨 | BREAKING: The Omicron variant appears to be a ‘super mild‘ mutation with Covid death rate in South Africa not jumping.
There have been no reports of hospitalisations or deaths as a result of anyone being diagnosed with Omicron.
🚨🚨 | BREAKING: The Omicron variant appears to be a ‘super mild‘ mutation with Covid death rate in South Africa not jumping.
There have been no reports of hospitalisations or deaths as a result of anyone being diagnosed with Omicron.
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First of our booster stations opened up in Ilfracombe today, ran out of vaccine by 1230 hrs.
I am honestly interested, and not making a point of any sort, but can anyone explain (without getting politicial) why the WHO are so keen to downplay the Omicron variant. The reaction from other nations has been similar to the Kent variant and Delta and not disproportionate and there seems to be quite a bit of sensible talk about letting the data develop before any changes in opinions are formed. The WHO seems to have taken a very strict view on most things (even quite extreme in some cases) but really seem to be downplaying this variant and making every effort to put across the view that it is mild and world is over reacting. Just seems a very contrary stance to everything that has gone before.
They believe the vaccines will still be very effective against severe stuff, as our immune system complex/polyclonal. It also gets better at 'targeting' variants with the booster or infection(real life data on infection shows it gets even better on variants. I am not suggesting to get infected before vaccination btw).
Whilst antibodies maybe not great with the new variant (not know for certain yet, time and initially lab stuff will come though), assuming this is true, then break though infections will rise. Which may not be good news for the much older groups.
But T cells however target part of the virus that with this variant is fairly similar to the other variants of concern (has been posted by a number of top people/labs). Again time will tell tho.
Transmission/immune escape and how lethal it is, questions, are basically still unknown.
Lets not forgot we are currently battling a delta wave (who knows what the future brings). Get those boosters in the arms of the old/venerable now.
Will give this thread a shout out and to the tweetor, who generally worth readings for updates (if you are vaccine hesitant or unsure, deals with things perfectly and encouragingly)
Chise 🧬🧫🦠💉🔜 MFF on Twitter: "If there is one thing I am going to tell you today it is to IGNORE the media and the clickbait headlines on this new variant. There is NO plausible scenario this will take us back to square one and there is a lot of misinformation currently circulating. Working on a thread now." / Twitter
if you wish to read from proper people on twitter, got plenty of threads saved, which happy to post up, edit such as Bloom Lab on Twitter: "Here's how mutations in #SARSCoV2 Nu variant (B.1.1.529) will affect polyclonal and monoclonal antibodies targeting RBD. These assessments based on deep-mutational scanning experiments; underlying data can be explored interactively at https://t.co/uP3IKvnDw0 (1/n)" / Twitter
You can not stop variants coming into the country, unless you close off all borders and all supply chains.
Lots of guessing currently.
Whilst antibodies maybe not great with the new variant (not know for certain yet, time and initially lab stuff will come though), assuming this is true, then break though infections will rise. Which may not be good news for the much older groups.
But T cells however target part of the virus that with this variant is fairly similar to the other variants of concern (has been posted by a number of top people/labs). Again time will tell tho.
Transmission/immune escape and how lethal it is, questions, are basically still unknown.
Lets not forgot we are currently battling a delta wave (who knows what the future brings). Get those boosters in the arms of the old/venerable now.
Will give this thread a shout out and to the tweetor, who generally worth readings for updates (if you are vaccine hesitant or unsure, deals with things perfectly and encouragingly)
Chise 🧬🧫🦠💉🔜 MFF on Twitter: "If there is one thing I am going to tell you today it is to IGNORE the media and the clickbait headlines on this new variant. There is NO plausible scenario this will take us back to square one and there is a lot of misinformation currently circulating. Working on a thread now." / Twitter
if you wish to read from proper people on twitter, got plenty of threads saved, which happy to post up, edit such as Bloom Lab on Twitter: "Here's how mutations in #SARSCoV2 Nu variant (B.1.1.529) will affect polyclonal and monoclonal antibodies targeting RBD. These assessments based on deep-mutational scanning experiments; underlying data can be explored interactively at https://t.co/uP3IKvnDw0 (1/n)" / Twitter
You can not stop variants coming into the country, unless you close off all borders and all supply chains.
Lots of guessing currently.
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I was told verbally, very deliberately, and also the leaflet for the jab made a big play for this. I didn't get a similar warning for my first two, AZ, and my wife didn't get this for hers, Pfizer, so it made me take note.
The fact they made a big point about it surprises me that nothing was said to your hubby. Maybe the person he was dealing with had been there so long they had become bored of the routine and had given up with repeating the same lines? Pleased all was well though
The fact they made a big point about it surprises me that nothing was said to your hubby. Maybe the person he was dealing with had been there so long they had become bored of the routine and had given up with repeating the same lines? Pleased all was well though
I was told verbally, very deliberately, and also the leaflet for the jab made a big play for this. I didn't get a similar warning for my first two, AZ, and my wife didn't get this for hers, Pfizer, so it made me take note.
The fact they made a big point about it surprises me that nothing was said to your hubby. Maybe the person he was dealing with had been there so long they had become bored of the routine and had given up with repeating the same lines? Pleased all was well though
The fact they made a big point about it surprises me that nothing was said to your hubby. Maybe the person he was dealing with had been there so long they had become bored of the routine and had given up with repeating the same lines? Pleased all was well though
Only thing he mentioned was they asked about any allergies or if he was on blood thinners. Like you say all was ok though.
Are you supposed to read the leaflets Only thing he mentioned was they asked about any allergies or if he was on blood thinners. Like you say all was ok though.
Only thing he mentioned was they asked about any allergies or if he was on blood thinners. Like you say all was ok though.
I had the Moderna booster too, and they didn't even know I was the internet's Chief Medical Officer, and nobody mentioned any heart effects.
I'd sue them.....