Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

road2ruin

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I don't understand what you're getting at. I posted a picture of the BBC's daily Covid report, it shows an increase of hospitalisations and deaths, are they not increases posted on that day? When the BBC make a daily Covid report should I pm you to make sure you agree with it before I get sucked in by their fake news 🙄
I don't think daily figures are helpful (in either direction) without the context of what has happened over a period of time beforehand. There are obviously been a rise but if you look at the 7 day average etc it's nothing to get too worried about plus we have the BH lag. Likewise, if today's figures suddenly showed that no one had died and only a dozen had gone into hospital we wouldn't suddenly suggest that it's beaten and we can just forget about it.

In other news, first day of school (Year 2) today and everyone in the household was very excited. Us because it marks the end of the school holidays and our daughter because she gets to see all of her friends again. No masks required for drop off, no staggered starts involving lots of queuing and all the kids get to eat and play together as the bubbles are not being used.
 

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I don't think daily figures are helpful (in either direction) without the context of what has happened over a period of time beforehand. There are obviously been a rise but if you look at the 7 day average etc it's nothing to get too worried about plus we have the BH lag. Likewise, if today's figures suddenly showed that no one had died and only a dozen had gone into hospital we wouldn't suddenly suggest that it's beaten and we can just forget about it.

In other news, first day of school (Year 2) today and everyone in the household was very excited. Us because it marks the end of the school holidays and our daughter because she gets to see all of her friends again. No masks required for drop off, no staggered starts involving lots of queuing and all the kids get to eat and play together as the bubbles are not being used.
If my neighbours dog kept me awake all night with barking it wouldn't make me feel better if he had been quiet the rest of the week.
I get the point that figures can get distorted over a weekend but the figures were bigger than they have been.
 

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As the most recent data on hospitalisations we have is Aug 28, I couldn't give an accurate figure for the last 7 days so I highlighted the FACT that the last 3 days of data we have for hospitalisations the numbers have fallen* from 1020, 949, 916 and 842 and not risen as SR wrote



I guess my glass is half full.

*https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/healthcare
Thanks for clarifying on hospitalisations Bob.
I do generally welcome your typical "look at the positives" approach 👍

I was really just highlighting that the 'mainstream media' aren't always as diligent as yourself.
 

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I guess I just don't understand why people feel the need to be the first to spread bad news even when the information is wrong and as SR is now back on my ignore list, I guess I'll never know.
Suffice to say there are those who have mental issues/depression/loved ones who passed away to Covid and the last thing they need is more bad news, especially when it's wrong.
 

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I guess I just don't understand why people feel the need to be the first to spread bad news even when the information is wrong and as SR is now back on my ignore list, I guess I'll never know.
Suffice to say there are those who have mental issues/depression/loved ones who passed away to Covid and the last thing they need is more bad news, especially when it's wrong.
Don't tell me, tell the BBC, all I did was show and comment on their report. If you put me on ignore due to my post then quite honestly I don't give a fig.
 

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Nipped into the Metro Centre yesterday after work for some bits and bobs, I'd estimate a maximum of 1% of the people had masks on, mainly young families with kids. Felt a bit of an outcast with my mask on 😷
Spoke to number 2 daughter yesterday. She works in a school and has had the usual 6 weeks, bar the odd day, off. She’s done a round U.K. trip, visiting various relatives/siblings.

Short version; mask uptake down south = very good. Oop north = appalling.
 

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I guess I just don't understand why people feel the need to be the first to spread bad news even when the information is wrong and as SR is now back on my ignore list, I guess I'll never know.
Suffice to say there are those who have mental issues/depression/loved ones who passed away to Covid and the last thing they need is more bad news, especially when it's wrong.
Was he the first to spread the news or the first to share it on here? Do you only want good news, or do you want all the news? Would you make a decision on good news only or would you seek a balanced view?

Sticking your head in the sand won’t make the (bad) news go away.
 

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Spoke to number 2 daughter yesterday. She works in a school and has had the usual 6 weeks, bar the odd day, off. She’s done a round U.K. trip, visiting various relatives/siblings.

Short version; mask uptake down south = very good. Oop north = appalling.
Guess it doesn't take a massive leap in deductive reasoning to assume that the areas that have been the covid hotspots throughout the pandemic are likely those with minimal mask wearing now.
 

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Was he the first to spread the news or the first to share it on here? Do you only want good news, or do you want all the news? Would you make a decision on good news only or would you seek a balanced view?

Sticking your head in the sand won’t make the (bad) news go away.
I think (and forgive me if I'm wrong) the point that Bobmac was making was that the daily figures on their own are pointless whether that be them being well up or well down. You have to take them in context with previous figures over a longer period of time. Whilst those figures look high they're actually down on the same period as last week so you could look at the numbers as good news in that context. Personally I do their that whilst the figures are high they're considerably lower than even the most 'positive' of models being wheeled out when 'Freedom Day' arrived so that's a good thing and we're no where near the 50,000, 100,000 or even 200,000 cases per day that was predicted.

Obviously figures are likely to increase over the coming months as schools are back and autumn arrives and we seem to be at a point where the vaccination numbers have almost topped out unless they lower the age of vaccination down to the 12-17 level, I don't think we're going to get many more first jabs done with the existing groups as most who want it have already come forward for it so the only way of getting a larger % of the population vaccinated.
 
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I thought a "Forum " was an arena for members to freely express their views on what, in their opinion, matters.

SR posted what he thought was relevant info from the public domain. Bobmac responded with an alternative info.

Why do we need to get worked up over a debate?
 

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Nice to see the proportion of single jabbed over 16 year olds closing in on 90% with the double jabbed nearly 80% and closing fast. At current rates we should be 90% of 16+ by the middle of next month.
 

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It is strange that deaths drop and it is better news. Which it is. But a good pal died yesterday of Covid. Always bitter sweet.
I remember earlier this year we only had one death In Mansfield one particular day. It was excellent news for Mansfield . Only that one person was my best mans Father.
Don’t let yer guard down chaps and chapettes
 

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To switch tack a little, does anyone have insights into the situation in Poland or Belgium? (real or guesswork 🙂)

Both had a really tough time in broadly the November to May timeframe, but both seem to be doing well of late.

Belgium did put a spurt on with vaccinations and I think maybe just ahead if UK now. Poland a bit back.

Anything the UK can learn from them? Is there just less delta going around?
 

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JCVI have announced that the vaccines should not be given to healthy children aged 12-15yrs, only those with an underlying health condition.
 
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