Competition Non Returns

[chrisd]

I played yesterday in our handicap catagory competition. I shot the worst front 9 in ages and, a not so bad, back 9. I was pretty despondant aterwards but looking on HDID there were 24 n/r's and a CSS of 72 which is 3 over the norm.

For me the course is penal and it's almost impossible to land just off the fairly small greens that we have, and to chip close with the 2nd cut being so thick that the problem becomes one of, if you hit it hard enough to get out of the lie, you cant avoid going 10+ yards past.

Is 24 n/r's out of 119 entries normal at your course

 

[ScienceBoy]

Everyone plays the same course on the day, I tell myself that every time.

Also in those conditions you KNOW you can get one up on the walk, hit, walk, hit players just by taking your time and laying up to keep on the short stuff. Noting wrong with going 5 iron, 7 iron into a short par 4 if you come off with a 5 and most others walk off with a 6 after trying to whack a driver into wedge distance!

If people adopted a better attitude there would be less NRs.

The only excuse I take is if the course is unplayble (or the weather is) or if I am unable to play due to ilness ($h@nk$ count as an illness)

 

[patricks148]

not that high

we had our last comp off the blue tee's on Saturday. right back and very windy day.

60 entries 20 NR's.

rough is pretty thick at the moment,miss the faiway lose the ball most of the time.

a very low turn out for this comp due to how hard the course is at the moment.

medal sss is 73 on a par 71

Blue, par 72 sss 74 css 77.

 

[DavePhoenix]

People NR'ing really annoys me. I honestly don't see the point of it.

If you are going to go up 0.1 anyway, surely you should just complete your round?

 

[chrisd]

People NR'ing really annoys me. I honestly don't see the point of it.

If you are going to go up 0.1 anyway, surely you should just complete your round?

N/R isn't necessarily not putting a card in. My playing partner put acard in with 2 scores missing

 

[pbrown7582]

That would be a fairly high percentage for ours but with the course so lush and overgrown in places i think its not surprising at the moment people are NR a lot rather than the long trudge back up the fairway to only keep a score as they are already plenty over handicap.

 

[Birchy]

Theres always quite a few at our course as well. Rough is brutal and trees block out a lot of shots if you cant control the ball. Ive NR about 4 times this season i think mainly down to losing a ball and the round already being practically gone handicap wise. Ive played every comp so 4 times isnt really that bad in proportion i dont think.

 

[rosecott]

People NR'ing really annoys me. I honestly don't see the point of it.

If you are going to go up 0.1 anyway, surely you should just complete your round?

The CONGU stance is that you should continue to make the best score you can at each hole, even after you may have failed to complete a hole in a Medal round. If you are marking someone else's card, you may have to gently remind him of that requirement. It is certainly not unusual for a N/R card to attract a handicap reduction.

 

[HawkeyeMS]

Our last medal we had 1NR from 63 entries which isn't bad. I wouldn't normally expect more than 5.

We are however seeing the effects of penal rough as CSS is nearly always +1 at the moment when most of last year it was =SSS.

I would say if you have that many NRs that either it's playing too tough or people give up too easily.

 

[HawkeyeMS]

The CONGU stance is that you should continue to make the best score you can at each hole, even after you may have failed to complete a hole in a Medal round. If you are marking someone else's card, you may have to gently remind him of that requirement. It is certainly not unusual for a N/R card to attract a handicap reduction.

indeed. Too many people don't undrrstand this and a lot of people still think if they NR they can't go up either.

 

[One Planer]

Our last competition had 2 N/R's from 58 entries.

The subject was brought up at our AGM tis year where our handicap sec' commented pretty much what Rosecott has put in post #8

 

[HawkeyeMS]

Theres always quite a few at our course as well. Rough is brutal and trees block out a lot of shots if you cant control the ball. Ive NR about 4 times this season i think mainly down to losing a ball and the round already being practically gone handicap wise. Ive played every comp so 4 times isnt really that bad in proportion i dont think.

i dunno, 4 times in one year seems way too many to me

 

[chrisd]

The CONGU stance is that you should continue to make the best score you can at each hole, even after you may have failed to complete a hole in a Medal round. If you are marking someone else's card, you may have to gently remind him of that requirement. It is certainly not unusual for a N/R card to attract a handicap reduction.

As I said, my playing partner filled in all but the scores on 2 holes, but I think you were making a general point and I agree that it is still possible to get a h/c cut and n/r's can affect CSS I believe

 

[mcbroon]

Last comp at our place had 30 N/Rs from 104 entries, which seems a lot.

I thought the N/Rs could have an effect on CSS but it only went up 1, despite the high number of N/Rs and the fact that it was blowing a gale.

 

[rosecott]

I thought the N/Rs could have an effect on CSS

They do, but only Cats 1, 2 and 3 scores affect CSS. I would imagine that the incidence of N/Rs rises for Cat 4s so maybe a sgnificant number of the N/Rs in your comp were from Cat 4s.

 

[chrisd]

They do, but only Cats 1, 2 and 3 scores affect CSS. I would imagine that the incidence of N/Rs rises for Cat 4s so maybe a sgnificant number of the N/Rs in your comp were from Cat 4s.

Only 4 were 18 h/cap or more. most were cat 3

The top 4 places went to 15+ h/cappers and I guess that, maybe, the penal conditions around greens affect lower handicappers more.

 

[Kellfire]

I no-returned for the first time ever yesterday during the second round of our club championship.

I had shanked it around on day one and had descended to the level of a first time golfer yesterday.

I explained my intentions to stop after nine to my playing partners should my form not pick up and assured them I would continue if they felt offended by this. Both were magnanimous and said it was entirely my decision.

After carding a six at the par 3 ninth, I checked my scorecard to see I was on a quite ridiculous 68 shots for the day and that was that. We sorted the cards so that I had signed to the point I marked for one of my partners and I made my exit.

On returning home I immediately emailed the competition secretary to offer my apologies, telling him I knew I had a competition ban coming my way and I was fully accepting this. I'll also apologise in person next time I see him and have told my two playing partners there is a pint with their name on it for their kindness and understanding.

I'm normally very anti-NR but I think when done in the right way and if it isn't a frequent occurence, it's not an issue.

 

[6inchcup]

this is the one thing that really annoys me about comps,there should be no R'S allowed unless it is for medical grounds ( broken something) i have played with low h/c players that have an absolute nightmare and would be lucky to break 85 who suddenly develop an ILLNESS!! and walk off the course only to make a miraculous recovery after a few pints and a bacon bap,if your of 5 a .1 makes very little different as opposed to coming in with say a 86(sss69) and taking stick of the other low h/c mates,it always sounds better saying "i had to come off ill",if you NR for any reason you should be banned for the next comp OR the next board comp.

 

[RGDave]

For me the course is penal and it's almost impossible to land just off the fairly small greens that we have, and to chip close with the 2nd cut being so thick that the problem becomes one of, if you hit it hard enough to get out of the lie, you cant avoid going 10+ yards past.

Is 24 n/r's out of 119 entries normal at your course

Well, well. Another grim story.

Last Friday nearly everyone I'd spoken to had N/Rd in the medal.

It's not exactly a surprise. When you hit one provisional after another, and another and when you finally find one of your balls near the green and it's unplayable other than a random whack with a wedge, Golf is no fun at all.

What annoys me is that the CSS goes up crazily and suddenly those that limped round get cut....playing to handicap?

I know 95% of golfers want to get cut...but not all do, if they are honest.

 

[rosecott]

Only 4 were 18 h/cap or more. most were cat 3

The top 4 places went to 15+ h/cappers and I guess that, maybe, the penal conditions around greens affect lower handicappers more.

Sorry, I was referring to mcbroon's comp with 30 NRs from 104 entrants.