Chipping!

[delc]

For those like me who find chipping difficult, this might help:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyXM7jpJmnI&feature=youtu.be

Due to the inclement conditions, I haven't had a chance to try this method out on the course yet, but it seems to work on the range and around our very soggy practice chipping green, It's exactly the opposite of what I have been taught before, that is hands well forward and ball back in my stance. I have only tried it so far with a sand iron, which is my club that has the most amount of bounce.

 

[Fyldewhite]

More to do with the type of lie/grass around the greens in America (or Spain/Portugal for that matter). Very wiry and yes your leading edge will snag very easily. Over here I'd stick to the accepted technique or get ready for a lot of thinned chips.

 

[delc]

It seems to me that this is a more reliable method of chipping. I haven't so far completely chunked one, or thinned one right over the green, which I am prone to doing with the conventional method. The contact doesn't feel so good, but so what. I seem to remember that Bernhard Langer was using a similar technique when he played a demonstration round for Adidas at my former club. There was no nice click when he contacted the ball (sounded a bit fluffy), but they all finished pretty close to the pin, He was 2 under par for 9 holes btw, with 2 birdies and no bogeys, even though he missed a couple of greens

 

[Maninblack4612]

This works. It is the method recommended by Stan Utley in his book "The Art of the Short Game" http://www.amazon.co.uk/Art-Short-G...359&sr=8-1&keywords=the+art+of+the+short+game

Nobody has heard of him but Utley holds the record for the fewest putts, 6, for 9 holes in a PGA Tour event. He put this down, not to his putting, but to an excellent short game.

The method works for me on soggy, lush turf as well as tight lies on hard fairways. Utley recommends this method for pitches too and it works there too.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Very similar to the linear method. Nothing new in the OP to what I've seen elsewhere and what I currently use (and its working)

 

[Foxholer]

This works. It is the method recommended by Stan Utley in his book "The Art of the Short Game" http://www.amazon.co.uk/Art-Short-G...359&sr=8-1&keywords=the+art+of+the+short+game

Nobody has heard of him but Utley holds the record for the fewest putts, 6, for 9 holes in a PGA Tour event. He put this down, not to his putting, but to an excellent short game.

The method works for me on soggy, lush turf as well as tight lies on hard fairways. Utley recommends this method for pitches too and it works there too.

Loads of people have heard of him and plenty have used his guidance for years! Not me though as the Pelz clock system seemed to work best for me.

He's just doesn't have the high profile of some short game coaches - like Pelz does!

 

[ScienceBoy]

It seems to me that this is a more reliable method of chipping.

Delc is spot on here, this is the method I've been taught by both my favourite pros, both were short game specialists.

The hands sit just on the leading inner thigh and the hands are quite passive, they look more active than they are but you always stay ahead by that little bit.

My first pro back in 2010 picked up that my hands were way too forward and my stance too open and wide.

Once sorted chipping became the best part of my game!

 

[selwood90]

I used to be very wristy when playing chip shots, seemed to make me thin a lot of them. I now use a method I saw on peter finchs channel all about the idea of 'not breaking the triangle' relating to the arms. Has helped my contact a lot, can trust the contact a lot more and commit to the shot. Instead of standing over it and thinking, here's another thin through the back.

 

[Smiffy]

Very similar to the linear method. Nothing new in the OP to what I've seen elsewhere and what I currently use (and its working)

That will come back to bite you.

 

[WWG]

For those like me who find chipping difficult, this might help:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyXM7jpJmnI&feature=youtu.be

Due to the inclement conditions, I haven't had a chance to try this method out on the course yet, but it seems to work on the range and around our very soggy practice chipping green, It's exactly the opposite of what I have been taught before, that is hands well forward and ball back in my stance. I have only tried it so far with a sand iron, which is my club that has the most amount of bounce.

Right, listen and listen carefully. This post is a continuation of my thread I put on the other day named "CHIPPER". My £4 on ebay chipper turned up yesterday, and it is by far the easiest club to use in my bag. I haven't as yet used it on the course, but in practice I could drop the ball on a 5p piece. Instead of using a lot of swing, I simply used wrist action. Of course this only works for relatively short pitching, but that's why I bought it. Words can't describe how much easier it is than using an iron. For those of you that already use one, well done, for those of you who haven't tried one, try one, and for those of you that won't try one, carry on making life difficult for yourselves.

 

[Robobum]

Right, listen and listen carefully. This post is a continuation of my thread I put on the other day named "CHIPPER". My £4 on ebay chipper turned up yesterday, and it is by far the easiest club to use in my bag. I haven't as yet used it on the course, but in practice I could drop the ball on a 5p piece. Instead of a lot using of swing, I simply used a wrist action. Of course this only works for relatively short pitching, but that's why I bought it. It is so much easier than using an iron, words can't describe. For those of you that already use one, well done, for those of you who haven't tried one, try one, and for those of you that won't try one, carry on making life difficult for yourselves.

I've used a chipper once. 185yd par 3. Went like an absolute bullet.

Useless for anything else

 

[garyinderry]

How has del only found out about using the bounce now? It is in every golf mag of the last few years.

100s of videos on line.

 

[bobmac]

So you put the ball forward in your stance, hands level with your centre and use the bounce.
If I'm not mistaken, that would hit the ball quite high.

What happens if you want to play a low running chip?

 

[One Planer]

So you put the ball forward in your stance, hands level with your centre and use the bounce.
If I'm not mistaken, that would hit the ball quite high.

What happens if you want to play a low running chip?

Leather wedge?



FWIW, I'm not a fan of the linear method.

 

[delc]

How has del only found out about using the bounce now? It is in every golf mag of the last few years.

100s of videos on line.

I sort of knew about it, and is probably what I did naturally as a teenage golfer many years ago, until I was told I was doing it wrong!

 

[garyinderry]

I sort of knew about it, and is probably what I did naturally as a teenage golfer many years ago, until I was told I was doing it wrong!

I'd love to see videos of you thinning and hitting it fat with the traditional method just to see how you are messing up one of the most simple shots in golf.


Trying to use the bounce isn't fool proof. Far from it. Homer has been trying to use the linier method which is basically using the bounce for a couple of years now and hasn't mastered it. You can still dig the club too much of you hit down too much. In drier conditions its possible to release the club too much and blade the ball if there is a lot of bounce on the club or big sole.


It is possible to use the bounce, hit down and have the handle slightly ahead. This is my preferred method of chipping. Best of both worlds. to do it, I open the club face a touch, which engages the bounce and adds to the static amount on the club. Hit it ever so slightly out to in, this get the club slightly steep for decending blow and hit a fraction behind the ball with the hands leading the club head into the stroke and hold this through the strike. The club slips in under the ball and it pops up nice and soft on landing. The only downside to this is that the ball will release slightly to the right on landing. When the ground is dry you can hit MILES behind the ball and still produce a good shot.

 

[Junior]

Does this work of a baked 'hard pan' type lie, or does the club just bounce up and skull the ball ?

All the low guys I play with chip using a LW , I'm still a bump and run with a 7i / pw . Something I need to improve on.

 

[garyinderry]

Yeah will work as long as you are not using and opening a lob with 11 degree like my winter lob. I use an 8 deg lob in summer most of the time. I'd use my 56 and open just a fraction and do as above. My 56 has 11degrees to but a much small sole.

I made this video to show my friend how much you can hit behind and get away with it. I was only chipping to a flag 10 yards away or so. It is something you should play around with. Once you have trust that the club slides in under the ball there is no stopping you.

[video=youtube;nHkoJMGw1gM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHkoJMGw1gM[/video]

 

[One Planer]

My own personal view on chipping is much different to Gary's.

In the situation described above (Chipping to a 10 yard pin), I vary the club I use depending on how much grass/fringe I have to carry.

Either way, the technique doesn't change much, only my club selection which will vary from a 58° to a 7 iron.

Stand square

Ball fractionally back of centre

Handle pointing just left of by Belly button

Then simply rock my shoulders in a similar fashion to a putt.

Keeping the club head outside my hands going back and through.

I'm not saying either way is better, it's about what works

 

[delc]

Although my club (Batchworth Park) is still closed, I was able to play at the nearby 9 of Herts course today. Using my new chipping technique I made 3 up and downs from off the green, and should really have made 2 more, but missed 3 foot putts. Apart from moving the ball forward in my stance, I haven't really had to change anything.