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So where does everyone sit in regards the issue with Ched Evans ?

It looks like Sheff UTD are possibly going to take him back on - so first question - should he be allowed to continue his career ?

Reading though the story I'm still a bit confused as to why some evidence wasn't used or ignored and unless I have misread something the girl went to his hotel willingly and slept with him - pictures of her before and after and also going back to the room after they had slept together but was found that she was too drunk to make a coherent choice so Evans was found guilty ?

Evans is still pleading his innocence so has the media missed something as it appears that whilst they were both drunk and stupid that it doesn't appear to be something to be found guilty of rape ?
 
If he was a postman and was looking to go back to work would there be the same outcry?

I'm not condoning his actions but if he's done the time he should be allowed back to work if his employer will have him.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
So where does everyone sit in regards the issue with Ched Evans ?

It looks like Sheff UTD are possibly going to take him back on - so first question - should he be allowed to continue his career ?

Reading though the story I'm still a bit confused as to why some evidence wasn't used or ignored and unless I have misread something the girl went to his hotel willingly and slept with him - pictures of her before and after and also going back to the room after they had slept together but was found that she was too drunk to make a coherent choice so Evans was found guilty ?

Evans is still pleading his innocence so has the media missed something as it appears that whilst they were both drunk and stupid that it doesn't appear to be something to be found guilty of rape ?
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From what I've seen in the papers it appears to be a very borderline case (wonder how it would have gone if he was just a travelling salesman and not a footballer). However, he was found guilty but he's now served his time so I can't see any issue with him carrying on with his profession. Be that footballer, baker, candlestick maker....

Some people are going to take huge umbrage that he's allowed to earn money again and he's forever going to the target of opposition fans (and pos quite a lot of home ones).
 
Val said:
If he was a postman and was looking to go back to work would there be the same outcry?

I'm not condoning his actions but if he's done the time he should be allowed back to work if his employer will have him.
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Agree with this. What the point in prison if it ends their life?

Might as well just throw them down a well instead or something.

From what ive read about the case it seems a very flimsy conviction although there is probably a lot of facts that we don't know.
 
Anyone got a minute's thought for his victim? How she must feel with all the publicity about him just now? Or the impact if he was lauded in the media after scoring some crucial goal or whatever?

More surprising to me is that a convicted rapist who has never shown any remorse for his crime should be released so early. I think sex offenders who don't get treatment should serve every minute of their sentence.
 
FairwayDodger said:
Anyone got a minute's thought for his victim? How she must feel with all the publicity about him just now? Or the impact if he was lauded in the media after scoring some crucial goal or whatever?

More surprising to me is that a convicted rapist who has never shown any remorse for his crime should be released so early. I think sex offenders who don't get treatment should serve every minute of their sentence.
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Is that the same victim who was seen boasting about getting a new car from compensation or money from talking to the papers ?
 
FairwayDodger said:
Discussions about rape, obviously.
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I'm not looking to blame anyone

The case seems very complicated with someone still protesting his innocence years down the line and from everything I have read so far feasibly shows it to be complicated with a very suspect conviction
 
He should be able to return to his previous job as he has served his time. I was amazed at Nick Clegg yesterday as rehabilitation back into society is part of Liberal thinking.
 
Won't be surprised to see him back playing again. Luke McCormick the Plymouth keeper got sentenced to 7 years for killing two children while drink driving and he returned to the game. And Lee Hughes spent three years in prison for killing someone also while drink driving and came out to play again.

With the Ched Evans case both him and his mate admitted to having sex with the victim. His mate was found not guilty but Evans was found guilty. Obviously I don't know all the facts from the court case but I found that a really strange verdict.
 
FairwayDodger said:
Anyone got a minute's thought for his victim? How she must feel with all the publicity about him just now? Or the impact if he was lauded in the media after scoring some crucial goal or whatever?

More surprising to me is that a convicted rapist who has never shown any remorse for his crime should be released so early. I think sex offenders who don't get treatment should serve every minute of their sentence.
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If like he claims he is innocent then he wouldn't show remorse would he etc? Not saying that he is innocent though as I obviously don't know.

So do you think he shoudn't be allowed back into his profession?
 
FairwayDodger said:
Anyone got a minute's thought for his victim? How she must feel with all the publicity about him just now? Or the impact if he was lauded in the media after scoring some crucial goal or whatever?

More surprising to me is that a convicted rapist who has never shown any remorse for his crime should be released so early. I think sex offenders who don't get treatment should serve every minute of their sentence.
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Different issue altogether. The guy is a professional footballer, is it right that because of his crime which was not linked to his profession then he should be stopped working?
 
ColchesterFC said:
Won't be surprised to see him back playing again. Luke McCormick the Plymouth keeper got sentenced to 7 years for killing two children while drink driving and he returned to the game. And Lee Hughes spent three years in prison for killing someone also while drink driving and came out to play again.

With the Ched Evans case both him and his mate admitted to having sex with the victim. His mate was found not guilty but Evans was found guilty. Obviously I don't know all the facts from the court case but I found that a really strange verdict.
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Erm, with all due respect I find it's better to know all the facts about a subject before I make a statement on that subject, especially in a sensitive area such as rape.
 
I didn't think this was an open and shut decision and the board have a large petition from fans not wanting him back at the club over and above their own views. I think he will come back to football with a team somewhere as he's a capable player and he's served the time he's been asked to do. Whether that sentence and the early release is just is a whole different topic altogther and the vagaries of the judicial system, his trial and the evidence at the time are something different to this thread.
 
Hacker Khan said:
Erm, with all due respect I find it's better to know all the facts about a subject before I make a statement on that subject, especially in a sensitive area such as rape.
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With all due respect.

It was hardly a statement, more like an observation.
 
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