Can People Change?

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Can people and/or their thinking change - or are we to be for ever judged and viewed through the lens of the past?

Personally I believe I am a very different Hogie to the Hogie of 10 years ago - I would understand that people remember me as I was and would occasionally remind me of that past - but I would hope that the Hogie of today is viewed in a much more positive light.

And part of that change is that I try and understand my own faults and failings, and now understand the importance for me of forgiveness of others for their faults.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Thoughtful post and well done for avoiding names. I will continue to do that.

Yes they can change but don't expect others to believe that change or forgive the actions of the past. This particularly applies if someone has spent most of their lives on one particular path only to change that path late on. Memories are long.

 

[williamalex1]

Can people and/or their thinking change - or are we to be for ever judged and viewed through the lens of the past?

Personally I believe I am a very different Hogie to the Hogie of 10 years ago - I would understand that people remember me as I was and would occasionally remind me of that past - but I would hope that the Hogie of today is viewed in a much more positive light.

And part of that change is that I try and understand my own faults and failings, and now understand the importance for me of forgiveness of others for their faults.

You will always have the same 4 letters after your name :rofl:

 

[Slab]

I've always thought that people can (& do) change their behaviours (what you say & do) but not their personalities (who you are)

Its then down to what others choose to use in order to base their opinions/judgments on

 

[Val]

Yes, I believe people can but I also believe people can put on a public face which is not their true self.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

If it's a full 180 change then we can judge them on their actions, you can't pick and choose what bits you want to change and those bits you choose to conveniently forget, all or nothing for me.

 

[bobmac]

You will always have the same 4 letters after your name :rofl:

Whereas you will have 5 ......SILCH

 

[williamalex1]

Whereas you will have 5 ......SILCH

Explain please , i was thinking HNSP for Hogie

 

[guest100718]

Can people and/or their thinking change - or are we to be for ever judged and viewed through the lens of the past?

Personally I believe I am a very different Hogie to the Hogie of 10 years ago - I would understand that people remember me as I was and would occasionally remind me of that past - but I would hope that the Hogie of today is viewed in a much more positive light.

And part of that change is that I try and understand my own faults and failings, and now understand the importance for me of forgiveness of others for their faults.

People do change, but some things are unforgivable .

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

You will always have the same 4 letters after your name :rofl:

Yes indeedy - but hopefully in life I more often stand in the correct position than I used to

 

[williamalex1]

Explain please , i was thinking HNSP for Hogie

and VEASY, for you Bob

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

People do change, but some things are unforgivable .

For many people that is very true. However I would suggest that when you listen to those who have suffered grievous hurt in the past and who have not forgiven - you often hear great anger, pain and resentment - and we see lives that will remain forever blighted by the hurt of the past through the anger and resentments of the present. And it does not need to be that way.

I cannot and should not forget the hurts of the past - but by forgiving myself and admitting my faults, and by forgiving those who have hurt me in the past, I have been able to work to change the person I am, and in doing that I can only hope that others recognise that change. And through personal change and being able to forgive others for what they do I hope that forgiveness comes my way also. Makes for a much better life all round...and it's certainly a different one today.

And my golf is a lot better

 

[drdel]

I believe people you meet usually make a 'favourable' judgement and then you can confirm that view or destroy it. Its about trust and I think the analogy with a mirror is the one I've used with my kids. Trust is like a mirror - easy to break but virtually impossible to mend !

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I believe people you meet usually make a 'favourable' judgement and then you can confirm that view or destroy it. Its about trust and I think the analogy with a mirror is the one I've used with my kids. Trust is like a mirror - easy to break but virtually impossible to mend !

It does not take long to determine the authenticity of another through the trust you hold in them and the honesty of their actions. And as you say. Once trust is broken it is hard to mend - but I believe that trust can be mended. Though it can take a long time there are steps along the way that can be taken that can change a relationship from one of no-trust to one of understanding and sufficient - if not total - trust. My belief is that no person is a lost cause and beyond redemption and rehabilitation.

 

[virtuocity]

Assume that all humans, somewhere within, have the urge to be heroic; to transcend circumstances, to develop their powers, to overcome adversity, to stand up and be counted, to be a part of something that surpasses the petty interests of self, to shape and realize their hopes and dreams.

Took me a while to fully prescribe to this philosophy- but my life is far better for it.

 

[williamalex1]

Explain please , i was thinking HNSP for Hogie

Assume that all humans, somewhere within, have the urge to be heroic; to transcend circumstances, to develop their powers, to overcome adversity, to stand up and be counted, to be a part of something that surpasses the petty interests of self, to shape and realize their hopes and dreams.

Took me a while to fully prescribe to this philosophy- but my life is far better for it.

And I didn't think you were listening , :thup:

 

[bobmac]

I was thinking 'Swings It Like Colonel Hogan'

 

[williamalex1]

Explain please , i was thinking HNSP for Hogie

I was thinking 'Swings It Like Hogan's hero's

Fixed that for you Bob :thup:

 

[bobmac]

Fixed that for you Bob :thup:

There's no apostrophe in 'heros' (plural)

 

[williamalex1]

There's no apostrophe in 'heroes (plural)

People can change things