Can of worms!!! Denim!!!!!!

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I know this will cause a big split as its a ongoing problem at my club.

Can some one give me a reason why in this day and age denim is still looked at within golf clubs as the devil.My rant is that maybe going back some time ie punks and the like denim was seen as a bad sign but please times change old boys at my club come in with old worn out "slacks" and thats fine or even £5 tesco sh~t but just let me walk in with smart £60+ pair of jeans smart shirt and all hell brakes out with the older members 40 plus (40 is not old so dont start just saying).Yet they come dressed like oxfam has had an open day and thats fine.

I have to dress in a suit 5 days a week for work and when i pull a pair of jeans on i dont suddenly change into some thug gone are the days on denim meaning trouble lets get with it.And no i dont want to ware denim on the course as it would be to tight to swing in but on a night in the club house why the hell not.

over to you. :o :o
 
Connor1980

WRT Denim, by the same convention that means that you have to wear a suit to work, golf clubs have the no denim rule.
It's tradition.

Like it or lump it, thats just the way it is.

Times are a changing, I can remember the days when I had to wear collar & tie and a jacket on a saturday afternoon. We have now gone way beyond that and in my club, you can wear smart denims at certain times in certain areas of the clubhouse.
 
Couldn't agree with you more. Am in the same situation having to a suit to work. SO when the weekend come it is nice to be able to wear jeans. I know from a personal point of view dressing a little more casual allows me to relax a bit more. The state in which you see some older people looking round the club house makes me wonder. As long as the jeans look smart are not stonewashed, ripped, flared or stained i cannot see how people could object to them.
 
Cheers lads for your replys and DCB thats just what i mean smart denim in the club house or even just in set areas within the club house.My club is not making much money over the bar on a night old boys dont go in because they can no longer drink drive i wont go in along with a lot of others because of the denim ban to this end the club will lose money.I dont want to give the bar down the road my money i would prefer to give it the club bar but im not getting in on a night and putting more trousers on.
 
As long as the jeans look smart are not stonewashed, ripped, flared or stained i cannot see how people could object to them.
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suggest therein lies the problem- 'smart' is in the eye of the beholder isn't it?

My other half would make a fair point that boot cut ripped jeans with emblems on them are currently what passes for 'smart' and she's probably right.

I'm all for anything that breaks up the foostie cliques in dusty old clubs but the danger would be you would upset all the decent folk without so much as raising an eyebrow amongst the crusties that would have written you off at birth anyway- you can't win.

As unpopular as this sounds I think it's about standards with the emphasis more on the spirit rather than the letter. Turning up in jeans seems an incroachment of the former if not the latter.

In a country seemingly hell bent on compromise, political correctness, putting the complaints of minority interests before the majority and seeking appeasment to avoid litigation i'm all in favour of having somewhere that you are still expected to raise your game for the greater good.

If this means no jeans- so be it.

It's at least partly why a golf club is a golf club and not a football terrace.
 
I echo BillyG's sentiments on this one. I wear jeans all the time evenings and weekends but wouldn't wear them to a golf club, I have no problem with that.
Saying that there are a few who do wear jeans at our club but they are in a tiny minority, you can wear them on course if you want but you'll just get under other members skin so why bother?
 
i see just where your coming from however a golf club is a business and your standars are all well and good for a long standing club that is cash rich.But standards dont pay the bills at the end of the month money spent in the bar does however.

only the rich clubs can live like this the rest need to wake up and change.
 
I remember playing at Carnoustie 2 years ago and there was a guy on the course playing in Denims, I SH** you not! I felt like running up to him, shaking him by the shoulders and saying (I would have said shouted but since on the course...)'NOOOOOO'. I believe they have since changed the dress code away from allowing Denims, at least I hope so.

As to Denims in the clubhouse, although my club doesn't allow it, as long as they are smart and not worn during the day on competition days I dont really have any problems with it, mind you I don't think I would wear them.
 
I can remember the days as a junior where I couldn't even set foot in the bar and had to order food and drink through a serving hatch. It was collar and tie after 4.00 and Sunday lunchtime. I thought it was utter madness.

Then I became a regular member and felt quite proud of my club tie and use to enjoy the privilege of being able to use the clubhouse fully.

Those days are long gone in the majority of clubs and its a good thing. However I think that when you join a club you already have a perception of what is required and by paying your subs you are buying into their dress code.

I have to say I think denim in a golf club either on the course or in the clubhouse is not on. I want my club to have certains standards otherwise I could join the local municipal and sit with all those golfers who turn up drunk in torn jeans and sleeveless shirts and hack it round in 6 hours without letting anyone through.

In my eyes denim is denim whether it be a £100 designer pair of jeans or something from Asda. No place for it
 
i see just where your coming from however a golf club is a business and your standars are all well and good for a long standing club that is cash rich.But standards dont pay the bills at the end of the month money spent in the bar does however.

only the rich clubs can live like this the rest need to wake up and change.
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with the greatest respect- go to a pub if that's what you're after.

It's not about wealth, quite the opposite

http://www.george.com/browse/menswear/trousers/

cheap trousers trump cheap jeans every time IMHO.

Pretty sure I could put together a smart set of casual clothes suitable for the club for less that the cost of a couple of rounds of drinks.

If a club has got to the point where it needs to prop up it's accounts with bar sales it's game over and time to have a long sober look at the books.

It's meant to be a golf club that offers light refreshment and not a drinking club that offers light golf.

As for any club not of long standing that finds itself in these straits - can only suggest the business plan must have been drawn up by a four year old and signed off at the bank by a monkey (or perhaps a Northern Rock director).
 
I wear shorts all the time, i find them comfy but i would not wear them on a course no matter how hot.

Look like a golfer feel like a golfer that's my thought.

The club house on the other hand is a different matter.
Match day, medal or presentation day no denim.

But other days i don't see the problem or if there is 2 bars let 1 bar be with denim the other without.

Why don't you bring it up at the next agm
 
A few months ago at one of our council meeting's I brought this topic up. I was looking for them to agree to let denim's back into the club house but not on the course. There were 2 other guys wanting different idea's, first guy wanted them allowed everywhere and the other wanted the rule to stay the same.
We took it to the EGM and all the old effer's must of been dug up just for this vote. Needless to say it stayed the same.
There is a rule in our club that if it's the person's first time in the club they are allowed to stay with denim's on but if it's a member he/she will be asked to leave.
I think this debate will go on for years to come.
 
I have to say I think denim in a golf club either on the course or in the clubhouse is not on. I want my club to have certains standards otherwise I could join the local municipal and sit with all those golfers who turn up drunk in torn jeans and sleeveless shirts and hack it round in 6 hours without letting anyone through.

As for the above "torn jeans" what world are you in who said turning up in torn jeans is ok??? and i have played many a good "private" course that has old boys in cheap old clothes who think they are showing the age by letting people play through.So i really dont see what you have added to this issue with slagging off players who cant for whatever reason afford to join a club MrHomer
 
Dress-codes are generally a cop out.
If you had a rule saying you had to behave correctly and conduct yourself properly, it would be hard to police and people would not have to guts to enforce so denim is out but moth-eaten Cord du Rats with half turned-down ups is OK
 
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