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The worry is that AJ can't take a decent punch. Ruiz knows that if he tags him high he's in. I think Ruiz wins by KO in 5.
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Fromtherough
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Some good odds available. You can get 11/2 for Ruiz to win in rounds 1-6. Joshua is 5/2 for same market.
Punch resistance will be a key factor. Ruiz’s style is awful for Joshua. I think it will be an early finish for either, depending on who lands first. I wonder how much the last fight plays on Joshua’s mind if he does hurt him. I can’t see him rushing in again. Ruiz is durable, as seen in the Parker fight and against Joshua. Joshua probably needs the KO.
I’ll backing both on the odds above. I’ll also be backing Joshua to win in round 5 and Ruiz to win round 7. Spreading my bets/sitting in the fence. Although I’d like Joshua to win.
Punch resistance will be a key factor. Ruiz’s style is awful for Joshua. I think it will be an early finish for either, depending on who lands first. I wonder how much the last fight plays on Joshua’s mind if he does hurt him. I can’t see him rushing in again. Ruiz is durable, as seen in the Parker fight and against Joshua. Joshua probably needs the KO.
I’ll backing both on the odds above. I’ll also be backing Joshua to win in round 5 and Ruiz to win round 7. Spreading my bets/sitting in the fence. Although I’d like Joshua to win.
BubbaP
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Interesting that one has gone heavier and one lighter, almost trying to nullify the others perceived strengths.
Interested to follow how Hunter & Whyte do also.
Interested to follow how Hunter & Whyte do also.
BubbaP
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Here we go then...
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Superb performance from Joshua, stuck to his game plan, annoyed Ruiz no end.
Commentators were doubting he could maintain his discipline after 2 rounds, then 5 rounds, then 8, etc etc, by the 12th they were gushing about his performance.
Great comeback.
Commentators were doubting he could maintain his discipline after 2 rounds, then 5 rounds, then 8, etc etc, by the 12th they were gushing about his performance.
Great comeback.
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AJ boxed very well, avoiding getting close to Ruiz, picking him off. He is back in the game, more though because Ruiz thought he could do the same as last time but was too weighty. Does he beat Wilder or Fury? Hmmm. Don't think so for me.
spongebob59
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solid disciplines performance, wonder if ruiz has Claus for another fight, don't think it will happen as probably same resu lt. Could be some good matchups next year with Fury to p billing. Suspect if fury loses to wilder he'll be of to wresting
Dan2501
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Nope, he won't be able to avoid Wilder's power for 12 rounds, and doesn't have the fundamentals to out-skill Fury, nor the power to him away. Joshua has the belts for now, but only until he fights the Wilder-Fury winner. His performance tonight was excellent though, did what he needed to do, out-skilled and showed solid Boxing discipline. Excellent adjustment, and a deserved victory.
For me the real Joshua Turned up tonight. He's always better when on the light side.
I genuinely think if he'd been in that shape last time round he'd have dispatched Ruiz. That's not taking away from Ruiz performance. Just the extra evasion and cardio benefits would have helped him.
This time round if anything the last fight imo played on AJ's mind so he didn't even contemplate taking a chance.
When he faces either of the two main contenders it'll be a good match up. For me, Fury doesn't have the killer knock out power. So AJ can take him. Out as long as he connects. Against wilder I think it'd be down to whether he can avoid him like he did ruiz and then take advantage of wilders mistakes. Hell swing more wildly than Ruiz. So it'll be who connects a big punch imo.
I genuinely think if he'd been in that shape last time round he'd have dispatched Ruiz. That's not taking away from Ruiz performance. Just the extra evasion and cardio benefits would have helped him.
This time round if anything the last fight imo played on AJ's mind so he didn't even contemplate taking a chance.
When he faces either of the two main contenders it'll be a good match up. For me, Fury doesn't have the killer knock out power. So AJ can take him. Out as long as he connects. Against wilder I think it'd be down to whether he can avoid him like he did ruiz and then take advantage of wilders mistakes. Hell swing more wildly than Ruiz. So it'll be who connects a big punch imo.
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Pin-seeker
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Professional performance from AJ tonight,but a bit of a bore fest IMO.
I think Fury would easily out box him & IF Wilder lands 1 it’d be game over. The heavy weight division is a bit tasty at the minute.
I agree Fury would outbox him if he turned up with the same style, but I think he wouldn’t be scared of fury knocking him out. So would go at him more. I think he’d land more than wilder did as he’s not as wild. So would be an interesting fight.
Agree it wasn’t as entertaining tonight as I’d have wanted if I’d paid £25 for it.
harpo_72
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Okay here it comes, put your drinks down ... just in case.
for me, Ruiz is the second in the division and needs to be passed by wilder or Fury, before they get near Joshua.
And the bulk of the purse should go to Ruiz for those fights.
Okay I’ll get my coat
for me, Ruiz is the second in the division and needs to be passed by wilder or Fury, before they get near Joshua.
And the bulk of the purse should go to Ruiz for those fights.
Okay I’ll get my coat
I’d like to see Ruiz v Wilder.
That Would be a fun fight. Fury would just keep him at range and beat him comfortably on points imo
harpo_72
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I think Ruiz learnt something last night and like AJ has realised he has to add to his repertoire.. which makes me think Fury would be a good proposition for him.
Dan2501
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Apparently Ruiz was meant to be back in camp in July and didn't show up until September. Says if he gets a third fight the best version of Andy Ruiz will show up, which is a shame, as this was his opportunity to prove he's better than Joshua and he turned up out of shape and failed to perform. Embarrassing.
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If he's not careful (Ruiz), he will fritter away all his cash in a very short time. He should be around 17-18 stone, not a flabby 20+. Got what he deserved and AJ couldn't believe his luck.
Wilder against AJ would be who lands first as we know that both can't take a decent punch. Fury v AJ could be a bore fest.
spongebob59
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Ruiz should still be in the mix but AJ has shown the blueprint to beat him but he still would have a punche rs chance in anyf ight.
I was watching an American stream and they were saying that was the game plan they had for the first fight but he didn't stick to it.
I was watching an American stream and they were saying that was the game plan they had for the first fight but he didn't stick to it.
harpo_72
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This is why I want to wilder Ruiz.. as I don’t really rate wilder apart from being a heavy hitter .. if he comes up against high hand speed slugger with some resistance what will be the result
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That was the stream I had, I genuinely think there was more than just him not sticking to his game plan in the first fight as well, maybe a bit cocky as Ruiz was a late replacement, maybe not as focussed.
It’s possible the Ruiz defeat will be of a benefit to him in the long run keeping him grounded and focussed.
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I don't watch boxing, especially since it went pay-per-view, so have read about this on-line.
So, AJ, is huge, chiselled out of granite, and trained really hard. The other guy looks fatter than me. AJ won. Fancy that. If I was interested in boxing I would worry about the future of this sport.
So, AJ, is huge, chiselled out of granite, and trained really hard. The other guy looks fatter than me. AJ won. Fancy that. If I was interested in boxing I would worry about the future of this sport.