Black or Brown Shoes

[White Feather]

Those who dislike the lack of science in the handicapping system have my sympathy. The handicapping system is a total mess. See my comments under "The Trouble With Handicaps". You will also see that hardly any of the so-called serious golfers which this magazine claims to represent bothered to properly read and digest my suggestions. I asked my son to look at the handicapping system years ago since he is a highly qualified scientist who has never played the game. His response - total rubbish!
I won't bother to visit this site again. Most of the respondents seem to have missed their vocation - working for shoe retailers! They are also too young to remember that before they were born you had to learn to play to 18 quickly since that was the highest handicap permitted! Nowadays you can't get your handicap down and even if you do, it is only by the smallest amount. See one correspondent who shot 43 points and was cut 1.6. Please CONGU give up trying to be computer analysts and just stick to being good at what you know how to do well - playing golf!

 

[need_my_wedge]

Of the two, definitely black - don't wear old man brown, but white in the summer

 

[wull]

well i managed to come down from 9.2 to 5.8 in the space of 3 months so something must be working right.you don't see me complaining that it doesn't work or complaining that i should be down to scratch by now if it was working correctly.

everyone is entitled to their own opinion just like you are and if you don't like it then you know where to go.

p.s i actually prefer white shoes but hey that's no reason to get upset now is it?

 

[Mattyboy]

Morning! May I suggest moving your bed away from the wall? It would give you an option of which side to get out of in the morning!

 

[patricks148]

well i managed to come down from 9.2 to 5.8 in the space of 3 months so something must be working right.you don't see me complaining that it doesn't work or complaining that i should be down to scratch by now if it was working correctly.

everyone is entitled to their own opinion just like you are and if you don't like it then you know where to go.

p.s i actually prefer white shoes but hey that's no reason to get upset now is it?

I don't see that much of a problem with the current system. I've been playing just over 5 years and came down from 24 my first handicap to 8 ( though i managed to go up two whole strokes this year, but had a cut of one and a bit whole strokes and back to 8.8)

 

[CliveW]

Those who dislike the lack of science in the handicapping system have my sympathy. The handicapping system is a total mess. See my comments under "The Trouble With Handicaps". You will also see that hardly any of the so-called serious golfers which this magazine claims to represent bothered to properly read and digest my suggestions. I asked my son to look at the handicapping system years ago since he is a highly qualified scientist who has never played the game. His response - total rubbish!
I won't bother to visit this site again. Most of the respondents seem to have missed their vocation - working for shoe retailers! They are also too young to remember that before they were born you had to learn to play to 18 quickly since that was the highest handicap permitted! Nowadays you can't get your handicap down and even if you do, it is only by the smallest amount. See one correspondent who shot 43 points and was cut 1.6. Please CONGU give up trying to be computer analysts and just stick to being good at what you know how to do well - playing golf!

The problem is our short attention span. Most of us are unable to digest a post of more than four lines and your initial epistle was certainly more than that. if you keep things short and concise then perhaps a better response would be forthcoming.
It is also the nature of internet forums that threads will be hijacked.
By the way, I have both brown and black shoes, but use soft and metal spikes!

 

[chrisd]

The problem with the original posting was that I didn't go beyond the first bit because I totally agree that the CONGU system prevents players from coming down as quickly as I would like. I didn't read all the detail as it seemed to be telling me what I already knew. Keep posting though as all the opinions is what keeps the forum going


Chris

 

[rosecott]

I asked my son to look at the handicapping system years ago since he is a highly qualified scientist who has never played the game. His response - total rubbish!

I am a highly qualified statistician who has played the game - for far too long. I don't know in which branch of science your son is involved but I would have thought that, probably having access only to the CONGU booklet and the CONGU/EGU websites, to give a "total rubbish" verdict might be subject to challenge.

 

[MadAdey]

Like people have already said white.... the post was just too bloody long to digest. People like to read short sharp snappy threads, that may have some fun to them. Copy and pasting the handicapping system is not going to excite anyone. I would love to work for a shoe retailer by the way. But maybe my qualifications in Aerospace Engineering will be wasted if I did that....

Regarding shoes...ditch the black and brown ones. Get the white and gold Adidas powerband like me....Then put your white loafers on to go to the bar in.

 

[wull]

well i managed to come down from 9.2 to 5.8 in the space of 3 months so something must be working right.you don't see me complaining that it doesn't work or complaining that i should be down to scratch by now if it was working correctly.

everyone is entitled to their own opinion just like you are and if you don't like it then you know where to go.

p.s i actually prefer white shoes but hey that's no reason to get upset now is it?

I don't see that much of a problem with the current system. I've been playing just over 5 years and came down from 24 my first handicap to 8 ( though i managed to go up two whole strokes this year, but had a cut of one and a bit whole strokes and back to 8.8)

i'm not sure if you are implying that i have a problem with the current system because you quoted my message but just to make it clear.....i don't have a problem with the current system either.

 

[Doc]

I couldn't care less about the handicap system, I play for fun, within the rules, at an appropriate pace and play at least one comp every week.

I save black shoes for court, brown for casual, white for the course, but I am tempted by those nifty blue and orange pumps by Puma for next summer.

Cheers

Steve...

 

[MadAdey]

Nowadays you can't get your handicap down and even if you do, it is only by the smallest amount. See one correspondent who shot 43 points and was cut 1.6. Please CONGU give up trying to be computer analysts and just stick to being good at what you know how to do well - playing golf!

Being too young to remember the old handicapping system it is difficult to comment with my own views on it. But I do remember my dad telling me about it and how it was so screwed up he ended up on a 1 handicap because of a few good rounds back to back. As under the old system you could just rape people for shots under general play. Like he said it was wrong. When the new system was introduce and they reviewed everyone's handicaps he went back to 5 which all of a sudden he was competitive again and enjoyed his game more as he had a handicap he was capable of playing to. His handicap did come back down again a couple of shots but like he said he was able to play to it now.

 

[patricks148]

i'm not sure if you are implying that i have a problem with the current system because you quoted my message but just to make it clear.....i don't have a problem with the current system either.

i was agreeing with you, just cos you use a quote doesnt mean its a disagreement! not sure where your coming from here.

 

[wull]

i was agreeing with you, just cos you use a quote doesnt mean its a disagreement! not sure where your coming from here.

haha,i thought you were agreeing but i wasn't too sure.

 

[USER1999]

The current system won't be changing any time soon.

It has it's faults. So did the old system. I for one don't want my handicap going up and down like a yoyo. Ok, the congu system might not react as quickly as some would like, especially those going through rapid changes, but cutting masive amounts on the back of one flash round is daft. Every one has a hot round in them.

 

[Oddsocks]

with regards to the HC system, its proven, it works, deal with it and move on. or start your own golf handicap system and see if you can make yours industry standard.

with regards to this thread, black in the winter, white in the summer. i would NEVER wear brown golf shoes.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Those who dislike the lack of science in the handicapping system have my sympathy. The handicapping system is a total mess. See my comments under "The Trouble With Handicaps". You will also see that hardly any of the so-called serious golfers which this magazine claims to represent bothered to properly read and digest my suggestions. I asked my son to look at the handicapping system years ago since he is a highly qualified scientist who has never played the game. His response - total rubbish!
I won't bother to visit this site again. Most of the respondents seem to have missed their vocation - working for shoe retailers! They are also too young to remember that before they were born you had to learn to play to 18 quickly since that was the highest handicap permitted! Nowadays you can't get your handicap down and even if you do, it is only by the smallest amount. See one correspondent who shot 43 points and was cut 1.6. Please CONGU give up trying to be computer analysts and just stick to being good at what you know how to do well - playing golf!

Think you need to consider the tone of the original post. Very long, very dry and a tad confrontational. I've been playing for over 30 years and so can remember the old system vividly. Was it any better than CONGU. I'm not sure it was and whether it was or not isn't really the issue. Its about playing with what we have and right ro wrong we are using CONGU. I really don't see what your huge beef with it is and the so called need to redesign it or get scientific intervention akin to Stephen Hawking to overhaul it. For the vast majority of club golfers it does the job. They know what they are off, what will happen if they miss a buffer and most will know what the cut will be if they have a good day. Where's the problem

I am a serious golfer and resent your insinuations having read your tirade (I mean post - why copy and paste in so much detail - less would have been so much more)

 

[MadAdey]

The one thing I will agree on is that at times people do not get their handicap cut quick enough and they scoop up some big comps before their handicap gets slashed. We have all seen it at a club. Someone new to golf who all of a sudden learns how to play and puts some stupid scores in. I do not know exactly how the system works. Is it not all done by computer now?

 

[bladeplayer]

Those who dislike the lack of science in the handicapping system have my sympathy.
You will also see that hardly any of the so-called serious golfers which this magazine claims to represent bothered to properly read and digest my suggestions.
I asked my son to look at the handicapping system years ago since he is a highly qualified scientist who has never played the game. His response - total rubbish!
I won't bother to visit this site again.
Most of the respondents seem to have missed their vocation - working for shoe retailers!
!

Firstly i cant see the site crashing down because you wont be back , most didnt even notice you were here in the 1st place, the so called serious golfers on here also respect that others wont agree with them & sometimes wont even bother commenting on them , they also have the audacity (spelled FREEDOM) to disagree..

Good to see the highly qualified scientists have nothing better to do than look at a handicapping system for a sport they dont even play , ever thought if you are so disalousioned with it you could always play a different sport? , also if his responce was total rubbish mayb you shouldnt ask him again , .. come to think of it you wont ever see this if you not coming back again ,ah shucks,
any how us shoe sales men will continue to lie about lenght & also how far we can hit the ball , drool about shineys , ask about each others balls & how stiff our shafts are , we will slag , argue , disagree & laugh together , when someone wants advice we will offer our (non qualified ) thoughts & ideas , You take care now bye .... (darn it your not coming back to read this i forgot) Rant over guys sorry

 

[USER1999]

Forgot to put a shoe colour choice.

Yellow please.