Awkward

[HRC99]

Had a bit of an awkward this weekend after a stableford. I was playing with two guys (who were regular playing partners).

The round took a bit longer than usual and they needed to shoot off so I was going in and volunteered to put the scores on the computer.

First card (that I'd marked) was fine. Entered mine, fine too. Third card. Nightmare.

His playing partner had totally and utterly cocked it up.

And I mean big time.

He'd given a 10 handicapper shots at stroke 11 and 12. He'd put him down for a 5 (for no points) at the last when he'd actually parred it.

All in all, he'd got his mate at 32 points and the computer said 23.

9 points out.

I felt really awkward indeed as they'd both gone, the card was signed by player and marker, so all I could do was put in the gross scores as signed.

Fortunately, the Captain was there so I explained what had happened just in case there was any come back.

Very awkward and the last time I'm volunteering to put someone's scores on the computer that I haven't marked.

 

[G_Mulligan]

I hate situations like this do you think they were honest mistakes?

 

[Losttheplot]

Very awkward mate, smart move to get the captain there to check it and witness it. Have a word with them next time you see them and explain what happened.

 

[HRC99]

I hate situations like this do you think they were honest mistakes?

Totally innocent. Not the slightest suspicion of anything untoward.

The gross scores were correct apart from the 18th (as far as I can recall) and it was all due to be entered into the computer so it was all going to come out in the wash anyway.

Just very awkward that he's going to head up to the club or get an email off HowdidIdo which shows him at 23 points instead of 32.

 

[HRC99]

Very awkward mate, smart move to get the captain there to check it and witness it. Have a word with them next time you see them and explain what happened.

That was fortunate timing. I also mentioned it to the Pro who knows them both pretty well so that, if he spoke to them before I saw them, he could tell them what happened.

 

[Junior]

Did he not check his own score at the end of he round before the card was signed ? You shouldnt feel awkward at all HRC.

 

[brendy]

Forget points, input the gross scores. You could write 5 points for every hole but it is still the actual score that stands and you cannot be disqualified for marking points incorrectly. as long as the gross has been signed for accurately.

 

[Imurg]

Had a beauty a few years back.

Captain's Day. All scores are in. A 28 handicapper has won with 44 points.
Much backslapping before and after.the presentation. Unfortunately, whoever marked his card gave him 2 points for a nett bogey, 3 for a nett par etc etc.
Cue much embaressment on the faces of the Commitee who had failed to check the card properly.
Quality entertainment...!!!

 

[HRC99]

Forget points, input the gross scores. You could write 5 points for every hole but it is still the actual score that stands and you cannot be disqualified for marking points incorrectly. as long as the gross has been signed for accurately.

It wasn't. He'd signed for a worse score than he'd actually shot.

 

[MashieNiblick]

Don't worry. He probably didn't check the points. Off 10 he'd know while he was playing whether he was playing Ok-ish (32 points) or having a 'mare (23 points) and would also have been aware of that from marking his own score. He didn't ought to be surprised when he gets his e-mail from howdidido.

 

[Losttheplot]

Forget points, input the gross scores. You could write 5 points for every hole but it is still the actual score that stands and you cannot be disqualified for marking points incorrectly. as long as the gross has been signed for accurately.

It wasn't. He'd signed for a worse score than he'd actually shot.

Well I think it's a DQ for signing an incorrect scorecard, regardless of the lower/higher marking. Its incorrect therefore DQ??? (I could be stood corrected here.....)

 

[brendy]

Yea, stroke only incorrect is a DQ. I didnt say his stroke was correct, just merely stating that if the points are wrong, doesnt instantly mean dq, only actual score.

 

[HRC99]

I thought if you signed for a higher score, then you stuck with that score but if you sign for a lower score that you actually got, then that's a DQ.

 

[MashieNiblick]

Only DQ for signing for a lower score.

Rule 6-6 Scoring in stroke play.

"d. Wrong Score for Hole
The competitor is responsible for the correctness of the score recorded for each hole on his score card. If he returns a score for any hole lower than actually taken, he is disqualified. If he returns a score for any hole higher than actually taken, the score as returned stands.

Note 1: The Committee is responsible for the addition of scores and application of the handicap recorded on the score card – see Rule 33-5."

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I've never been asked to enter someone elses card and not sure I'd want to. It is each players responsibility. We have to sign into our competitions via PSI in the locker room. Everyone knows they have to swipe their card before going out but some still forget and get a D/Q. It's the same with the card. They all know they are responsible for checking and signing for the right score and entering it in PSI and putting it in the box.

Mind you as we know even the pros get it wrong (Parnevik and Roe in the Open perhaps the most high profile) and in this case I think you did exactly the right thing telling the cpatain and pro

 

[HRC99]

I've never been asked to enter someone elses card and not sure I'd want to. It is each players responsibility. We have to sign into our competitions via PSI in the locker room. Everyone knows they have to swipe their card before going out but some still forget and get a D/Q. It's the same with the card. They all know they are responsible for checking and signing for the right score and entering it in PSI and putting it in the box.

Mind you as we know even the pros get it wrong (Parnevik and Roe in the Open perhaps the most high profile) and in this case I think you did exactly the right thing telling the cpatain and pro

I had to google PSI to see what you meant. That's a swish system. Much better than ours!

Any idea how much that system costs?