Auschwitz.

[Golfmmad]

A sombre and very emotive subject, but one that should be discussed.

It's quite unbelievable that such an atrocity could even be thought of, let alone carried out. As we know it's the 70th anniversary and much has or is being shown on TV. One thing that stood out for me yesterday was the 91 year old lady survivor visiting some young students. She was gently talking to them and each and every one of the 15-20 were hanging on to her every word with a look of total respect, and I'm sure, shocked at what they were hearing.

I remember seeing the film Schindlers List some years ago, and at the time thinking, why have I just sat through such a harrowing film, and feeling annoyed. Until of course, I thought about it some more and realised, I should know and see some of that awful atrocity, to help understand what over 6 million people, men women and children, had to endure during such a dreadful part of History.

We, and our children, and their children, will remember them.

 

[Tongo]

I visited Sachsenhausen as a 15 year old on a school trip to Berlin. Was one of the most chilling, harrowing experiences of my life and i can still remember parts of the trip vividly today 20 years later.

 

[chellie]

We've visited twice now. First time on our own and then second time we took our daughters. These are from our first visit. Beggars belief how anyone survived.


Also one of the monument at Plaschau

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Been to both Belsen and Dachau, honestly believe all school children from all nationalities should be took to visit one as part of there education.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Went there as part of an away trip with England. There were some right wrong un's on the trip but even the hardest thug had tears in their eyes. Moving doesn't even begin to do the place and the atmosphere justice

 

[pbrown7582]

I have been to auschwitz, the birds don't sing over the place and it really does take some believing.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Went there during a staff ride as part of the 60th anniversary - you can feel the awful things that went on there.

 

[matt71]

Never been there but seen the topograph of horror in Berlin ! I got that emotional had to leave and let the wife go round on her own !

very sad

 

[JustOne]

I'm fed up with the war stuff, they should bulldoze the place and just put up a memorial and some charity houses (preferably for all the people looking for lives shacked up at Calais).

 

[Liverbirdie]

I'm fed up with the war stuff, they should bulldoze the place and just put up a memorial and some charity houses (preferably for all the people looking for lives shacked up at Calais).

Are you for real, you insensitive fool?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I'm fed up with the war stuff, they should bulldoze the place and just put up a memorial and some charity houses (preferably for all the people looking for lives shacked up at Calais).

Seriously ?

 

[Deleted member 1740]

My 8yo daughter came home from school today and she told me she'd been learning about this. We had a boss conversation about how bad Hitler was to the Jews etc.

She was very inquisitive and interested how the POW's lived etc.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I'm fed up with the war stuff, they should bulldoze the place and just put up a memorial and some charity houses (preferably for all the people looking for lives shacked up at Calais).

If it wasn't for this war stuff and those that served we'd be living in a different world.

"When you go home, tell them of us and say
For their tomorrow, we gave our today"

 

[JustOne]

Are you for real, you insensitive fool?

I'm a fool for having my own opinion? Don't be a knob and start calling people names

The English are hung up on war films, war stories, war memories, we won the war - we can stop talking about it now. I wonder what the Germans do... should we just keep rubbing it in their faces for ever and ever? We could gloat about how we used to control slaves if you want, or how our empire used to be so massive we controlled 2/3 of the worlds surface.

I'd be happy not to hear about the war ever again, that's not to say that people shouldn't be educated on such subjects and morally obliged to respect the sacrifices made in the name of freedom and democracy (which I most certainly do).

If it wasn't for this war stuff and those that served we'd be living in a different world.

"When you go home, tell them of us and say
For their tomorrow, we gave our today"

Indeed (see above).

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I'm a fool for having my own opinion? Don't be a knob and start calling people names

The English are hung up on war films, war stories, war memories, we won the war - we can stop talking about it now. I wonder what the Germans do... should we just keep rubbing it in their faces for ever and ever? We could gloat about how we used to control slaves if you want, or how our empire used to be so massive we controlled 2/3 of the worlds surface.

I'd be happy not to hear about the war ever again, that's not to say that people shouldn't be educated on such subjects and morally obliged to respect the sacrifices made in the name of freedom and democracy (which I most certainly do).




Indeed (see above).

How is remembrance gloating, The Germans also pay there respects to there dead, there are people still living whose lives are still affected by the War, it's commeration not celebration and maybe remembering is one of the ways to avoid it happening in the future.

 

[JustOne]

How is remembrance gloating, The Germans also pay there respects to there dead, there are people still living whose lives are still affected by the War, it's commeration not celebration and maybe remembering is one of the ways to avoid it happening in the future.

I have no issue with it in terms of remembering the dead, as per my first post my personal opinion is that they should put up a memorial and then knock the place down.... would the dead still want a concentration camp to exist 70yrs on and not some charity housing for the homeless? I think they'd have wanted that place bombed to dust!!... but that's just my opinion... hey, why don't we rebuild Fred West's house again so we can walk round it and see where the atrocities were committed?????????????????????????? (if you see what I mean).

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I have no issue with it in terms of remembering the dead, as per my first post my personal opinion is that they should put up a memorial and then knock the place down.... would the dead still want a concentration camp to exist 70yrs on and not some charity housing for the homeless? I think they'd have wanted that place bombed to dust!!... but that's just my opinion... hey, why don't we rebuild Fred West's house again so we can walk round it and see where the atrocities were committed?????????????????????????? (if you see what I mean).

Knocking it down and building houses and putting asylum seekers in them comes across as nothing more than racist and insensitive. It is a permanent memorial and what about the tens of thousands of people who died and are buried there, while were at it lets build on all cemetries in UK,
This was an atrocity on a Global scale and as much as I respect your right to an opinion if you read it back you might think it was a bit crass,

 

[JustOne]

Knocking it down and building houses and putting asylum seekers in them comes across as nothing more than racist and insensitive.

Racist???

Insensitive to those who have a different opinion about it - of course it would seem that way as likewise their opinion is 'insensitive' to my feelings on the subject. When they pulled down fred West's house it was insensitive to those who thought is should be kept so we could wander around it and mourn for the loss of those kids. (<< a cheap but apt example as I'm glad they knocked that hell hole down!)

 

[shewy]

Justone or one one?
Man you really are being what is commonly known as an eejit, put down the vino and have some respect man

 

[PhilTheFragger]

Strongly disagree with your opinion James

Having been to Belsen and also to Anne Frank's house in Amsterdam and war graves in France, Belgium and the Far East I feel that these places serve to remind humanity of mans inhumanity to man, that evil exists even in "civilised" countries and if not remembered will resurface at some point in the future.

The concentration camp sites specifically are a permanent memorial to the millions who were systematically exterminated within living memory ( albeit numbers are dwindling ) , there is something in the air that sends a shiver down your spine when you enter, and you wouldn't get that at a simple stone memorial.

Until the world doesn't need reminding, they will stay and as many people as possible should visit to witness and to educate future generations