Are the Tories The ENP ?

[Doon frae Troon]

A little quip from Andrew Marr made me smile.
When you think about it the Tories had eight seats outwith of England, probably six after the GE.
Does that make them by default the English National Party.

 

[6inchcup]

i still cant understand why in ENGLAND do we have to put up listening to a welsh woman whos party is the 4th (FOURTH )biggest in wales,and a scotish woman we cant vote for.Have the debates one for ENGLAND one for WALES and one for SCOTLAND, and when the dust settles the TORY party can carry on doing its good work,get rid of the WELSH and the SCOTISH votes and give them what they whant,freedom from westminster.

 

[jp5]

No. Next question?

 

[Doon frae Troon]

i still cant understand why in ENGLAND do we have to put up listening to a welsh woman whos party is the 4th (FOURTH )biggest in wales,and a scotish woman we cant vote for.Have the debates one for ENGLAND one for WALES and one for SCOTLAND, and when the dust settles the TORY party can carry on doing its good work,get rid of the WELSH and the SCOTISH votes and give them what they whant,freedom from westminster.

You seem to have forgotten that Scotland voted to stay in the UK.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

You seem to have forgotten that Scotland voted to stay in the UK.

Oh! the irony.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

No. Next question?

I agree.

 

[6inchcup]

You seem to have forgotten that Scotland voted to stay in the UK.

only by voters believing they would get more money from the government,why didnt the ENGLISH get a vote.

 

[Hobbit]

You seem to have forgotten that Scotland voted to stay in the UK.

You (constantly) seem unwilling to accept what the majority of your countrymen and women voted for.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

You (constantly) seem unwilling to accept what the majority of your countrymen and women voted for.

I was quite happy with the way Scotland voted.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

only by voters believing they would get more money from the government,why didnt the ENGLISH get a vote.

Well these very voters were told by Cameron et al that they would be better (off) together staying in the united kingdom so that's what they voted for - so don't be surprised

And BTW many 100s of thousands of Scots didn't get a vote on the future of their country either. Besides its pretty obvious why the rUK electorate didn't get a vote given that had they had the vote then England might have voted YES to Scotland's NO - effectively throwing Scotland out of the union against its wishes and so an obvious non sterter

 

[SocketRocket]

Well these very voters were told by Cameron et al that they would be better (off) together staying in the united kingdom so that's what they voted for - so don't be surprised

And BTW many 100s of thousands of Scots didn't get a vote on the future of their country either. Besides its pretty obvious why the rUK electorate didn't get a vote given that had they had the vote then England might have voted YES to Scotland's NO - effectively throwing Scotland out of the union against its wishes and so an obvious non sterter

Think what you can do for your Nation rather than what can your Nation can do for you! Too many Gimme Gimme, attitudes coming out of Scotland at the moment and the SNP are playing nasty games with the economy and are outright intent to build up animosity with the English. It's just dirty politics on a scale we have not experienced and will sadly break up the UK.

 

[c1973]

Think what you can do for your Nation rather than what can your Nation can do for you! Too many Gimme Gimme, attitudes coming out of Scotland at the moment and the SNP are playing nasty games with the economy and are outright intent to build up animosity with the English. It's just dirty politics on a scale we have not experienced and will sadly break up the UK.

I for one am glad some people can see that, I just wish more Scots would.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I think you will find that it is Cameron reneging on The Vow that is the main driver for the SNP surge.
Plus Scottish Labour being absolutely clueless.
Dirty politics eh.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

http://www.theguardian.com/politics...al-report-on-scottish-government-impact-on-uk

Cameron losing the plot, he will be joining Nigel soon.

Family of Nations, better together, how soon they are forgotten.

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

http://www.theguardian.com/politics...al-report-on-scottish-government-impact-on-uk

Cameron losing the plot, he will be joining Nigel soon.

Family of Nations, better together, how soon they are forgotten.

Exactky, better together. Not, see how well Scotland can do atvthe expense of the rest of the UK. For someone who says he is happy at the NO vote, you do come across very bitter. You realise part of being in the UK is pulling in the same direction, right? Hence why the SNP are extremely dangerous in the election. Any party that doesn't care how the remaining 3 countries fare (to the extent they appear sometimes to hope they do badly), should not have any say in national politics.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Exactky, better together. Not, see how well Scotland can do atvthe expense of the rest of the UK. For someone who says he is happy at the NO vote, you do come across very bitter. You realise part of being in the UK is pulling in the same direction, right? Hence why the SNP are extremely dangerous in the election. Any party that doesn't care how the remaining 3 countries fare (to the extent they appear sometimes to hope they do badly), should not have any say in national politics.

When have the SNP said that they don't care.
They are working for a better, fairer Scotland.
We don't like the Tory re-invention of pawnbrokers, payday loaners, poverty, massive rich/poor divide and foodbanks......... in one of the richest countries in the world.

 

[FairwayDodger]

I think you will find that it is Cameron reneging on The Vow that is the main driver for the SNP surge.
Plus Scottish Labour being absolutely clueless.
Dirty politics eh.

We hear this a lot and I'm unable to determine the actual truth of it.

Specifically, what was promised that won't be delivered?

 

[Doon frae Troon]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...-Armed-Forces-unless-Trident-is-scrapped.htmlhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...-paralyse-Armed-Forces-unless-Trident-is-scra

Serious Tory meltdown now.

Sorry looks like page has been deleted, I can understand why.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

We hear this a lot and I'm unable to determine the actual truth of it.

Specifically, what was promised that won't be delivered?

Cameron' EVEL proposals of a UK Parliament was a game changer.
Nobody has voted for that.

 

[FairwayDodger]

Cameron' EVEL proposals of a UK Parliament was a game changer.
Nobody has voted for that.

I don't understand. What promises from "the vow" are not being delivered?