Are the new generation of golfers being conned?

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If I wasn't a good cook, why would a new set of pans help?
If my driving was bad should I buy a new car?
If my golf swing is bad will a new set of clubs help?

I would think that most of us on the forum know that clubs come in all shapes and sizes. From cavity back to blades, from A shaft to x-stiff, steel, graphite, custom fit and so on.
If todays golfer had less choice, would he just buy a set and learn to use them by practicing?

I sometimes think there are some golfers out there who feel that one day they will find a set that suits their swing therefor they wont have to practice. Just use my own rubbish swing and these miracle clubs are going to change my swing into a thing of beauty.

I hope most people on here will appreciate getting the shaft to suit your natural swing speed and the club's lie sorted is a great start, but how much difference does the rest really make.
High and low kick points, pured shafts, upright, flat, strong, weak, steel graphite, light, heavy and so it goes on.
You only have to look through a catalogue to see the huge choice in shafts there ae alone :D

Now I'm not aginst custom fitting, far from it, but does it really make that much difference to the average golfer whose swing is different from day to day?

Or are the manufacturers getting too good at their job. :mad:

I have read here on a regular basis that "this club is totally wrong for me" You mean it's left handed? :eek:

A club may not be perfect for your ideal swing (if you know what that is) but it's unlikely to be competely wrong for you.(Unless you buy from Argos)

I think the golfer who thinks they can get better without practicing, has been led up the garden path by the manufacturers.
I would say dont just buy new clubs, learn how to hit what you've got and practice.
Good luck :)

As for me, I'm of to AG to look at the new black nickel MP 68s :D
 
The real con surely is how little the nice new shiny things hold their value. Always used to moan that a new car lost 15% as soon as you drive it off the forecourt, with a new driver its nearer 50%.

Only just back in the game but what bugs me is how many models some manufacturers now produce and then change several times a year it seems. Have already become a great fan of buying second hand, if at all possible, on last years model (ie 2 909 hybrids with shaft upgrades, Titleist wanted £180 a piece, got both less than 6 mths old for £120 the pair).

It seems to me that custom fit apart from shaft choice really only applies to irons still, you dont see many say their new Driver is half inch longer, 2 degrees upright and 2 degrees delofted lol. The bit that Id like to find out more about is custom fitting wedges, I expect that bounce and sole grind make a much bigger impact than I ever remembered.

As for me, have succumbed and bought myself a camera, pretty much all my efforts in the foreseeable future going into practising (he says eyeing up the new titleist 910D lol), when that failed, some new shiny ones it is please
 
Not wallowing in £5 notes means I cannot purchase set after set. It seems some people buy irons like computer games, Ea sports tiger woods 2008, 2009, 2010 equates to buying Ping G2, G5, G10, G15.

For myself purchasing clubs should come with a marked change.

My putter moved from an off the shelf generic to my ping redwood

My wedges went from an over 8 year old Progen Wedge, fazer bunker wedge my sets SW to a 52, 56 and 60 Mizuno MP T10

My driver went from an Ancient Wilson Deep Red II to a Ping G15

My irons are changing from Power Bilt Grand Slam to Mizuno MP 52 (ok 2nd hand but custom fit in a few years when these wear out)
 
Stop hiding behind 'some golfers out there' Bob, and name names ! :D

Only time i have ever changed irons is when i am playing well. Too old to get sucked into the idea that new clubs will suddenly improve my game. New swing might though :D

Good post though, although law of averages means you must come up with one occasionally. :D
 
I presume the so-called "technological advances" in golf clubs will have to level off eventually...otherwise we'll all be hitting 100% of fairways with 350 yard drives, knocking our irons stone dead and draining every putt we look at. Where would be the fun in that?!
 
If I wasn't a good cook, why would a new set of pans help?
If my driving was bad should I buy a new car?
If my golf swing is bad will a new set of clubs help?

I would think that most of us on the forum know that clubs come in all shapes and sizes. From cavity back to blades, from A shaft to x-stiff, steel, graphite, custom fit and so on.
If todays golfer had less choice, would he just buy a set and learn to use them by practicing?

I sometimes think there are some golfers out there who feel that one day they will find a set that suits their swing therefor they wont have to practice. Just use my own rubbish swing and these miracle clubs are going to change my swing into a thing of beauty.

I hope most people on here will appreciate getting the shaft to suit your natural swing speed and the club's lie sorted is a great start, but how much difference does the rest really make.
High and low kick points, pured shafts, upright, flat, strong, weak, steel graphite, light, heavy and so it goes on.
You only have to look through a catalogue to see the huge choice in shafts there ae alone :D

Now I'm not aginst custom fitting, far from it, but does it really make that much difference to the average golfer whose swing is different from day to day?

Or are the manufacturers getting too good at their job. :mad:

I have read here on a regular basis that "this club is totally wrong for me" You mean it's left handed? :eek:

A club may not be perfect for your ideal swing (if you know what that is) but it's unlikely to be competely wrong for you.(Unless you buy from Argos)

I think the golfer who thinks they can get better without practicing, has been led up the garden path by the manufacturers.
I would say dont just buy new clubs, learn how to hit what you've got and practice, with a V-Easy 'cause I ain't selling enough to afford the MP68's! :)

As for me, I'm of to AG to look at the new black nickel MP 68s :D
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Added the bit you missed off Bob. :D
 
On a more serious note though. Bob does have a point.

However, folks buying goods, whatever it is, is good for the economy, jobs, etc.

Not withstanding that. This game is so much 'in the head', if it makes you feel better about your game then why not. But don't let the marketing spiel get to you, these guys are clever at hitting the 'right' buttons with their target audience.

As for me. I talked myself out of my high offset shovels. Seed of doubt 'an all that, and got myself something a bit 'sexier' last spring. It has helped massively. But would £400 worth of lessons been just as effective, or £400 hitting balls down the range, or even even £400 worth of gear from the warehouse!! In all honesty, new bats should have been last on the list. But my head had just said that my old bats were no longer for me.

I'm sticking with these new bats for sometime, they suit my swing, my eye, and I feel confident with them as I've got better. I can't see me being good enough to move onto pure blades.

Though the MP68's weren't impossible to hit.............................even for me!! :eek:
 
Bob,

I think the manufacturers have most golfers sussed, if they promise 10 yards further or longer then people are going to buy them if they need them or not.

I know of people with numerous drivers and sets of irons!! I don't understand why as you can only use 14 clubs at a time.
I think they would be better persevering with what they have until they improve, instead of blaming the club all the time, replacing it and ending up with loads of sets sitting in the garage.

Of course it could be that I'm a tight Scotsman who won't spend his money ;)
 
I have got some new 'custom fit' MP53's and am really looking forward to getting out there and practicing with them. I have to admit I was hoping that they might help me to be more consistant (used to have a starter set of Rams) I agree with Bob, they are a not a miracle cure, a bad swing is a bad swing no matter which club you have in your hand, but custom fit should reduce my excuses :rolleyes:
 
I'm sticking with these new bats for sometime, they suit my swing, my eye, and I feel confident with them as I've got better. My house on the ther hand is getting old so I'm getting a new one.
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I'm sticking with these new bats for sometime, they suit my swing, my eye, and I feel confident with them as I've got better. My wife on the ther hand is getting old so I'm getting a new one.
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Double fixed. :eek: :D
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I'm sticking with these new bats for sometime, they suit my swing, my eye, and I feel confident with them as I've got better. My house on the ther hand is getting old so I'm getting a new one.
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Fixed :D
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I'm sticking with these new bats for sometime, they suit my swing, my eye, and I feel confident with them as I've got better. My wife on the ther hand is getting old so I'm getting a new one.
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Double fixed. :eek: :D
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So it's your mother AND wife that are going in the granny annexe? :D
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If I wasn't a good cook, why would a new set of pans help?
If my driving was bad should I buy a new car?
If my golf swing is bad will a new set of clubs help?

I would think that most of us on the forum know that clubs come in all shapes and sizes. From cavity back to blades, from A shaft to x-stiff, steel, graphite, custom fit and so on.
If todays golfer had less choice, would he just buy a set and learn to use them by practicing?

I sometimes think there are some golfers out there who feel that one day they will find a set that suits their swing therefor they wont have to practice. Just use my own rubbish swing and these miracle clubs are going to change my swing into a thing of beauty.

I hope most people on here will appreciate getting the shaft to suit your natural swing speed and the club's lie sorted is a great start, but how much difference does the rest really make.
High and low kick points, pured shafts, upright, flat, strong, weak, steel graphite, light, heavy and so it goes on.
You only have to look through a catalogue to see the huge choice in shafts there ae alone :D

Now I'm not aginst custom fitting, far from it, but does it really make that much difference to the average golfer whose swing is different from day to day?

Or are the manufacturers getting too good at their job. :mad:
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Wrong side of the bed this morning Bob? :D


How will the pro shops survive on Mars bar sales alone? support your pro - buy new clubs! :D :D





I know my clubs are shite, but if I can't swing them to my satisfaction then new shiney ones are hardly going to help.
 
I don't think it's a case of not being prepared to learn to use the clubs you have.I think it's more that as a whole we are a more affluent society now and we don't have to hang on to a set of clubs for 30 years. Most of us who are middle aged
with the mortgage gone (or nearly) have so much more disposable income than our parents therefore £300 or so doesn't break the bank, it's merely a case of a couple of months savings at most.
If I see something I like then I will buy it regardless of wether my irons still have ten good years left in them because I can. Manufacturers need constant turn over, they also cannot sit on a set of irons for 2/3 years as most people buy because they want something new and shiney. We all know that their claims of longer are rhubarb but what else can they put on an ad?
Who would buy the new TM driver if it was advertised as: The new TM driver, it's newer than the one you have so why not buy it!
 
We all know that their claims of longer are rhubarb but what else can they put on an ad?
Who would buy the new TM driver if it was advertised as: The new TM driver, it's newer than the one you have so why not buy it!
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Brilliant! :D
 
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