markgs
Tour Rookie
are range finders allowed in club comps? The basic one without slope or wind direction?
are range finders allowed in club comps
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freddielong
Tour Winner
It depends on your club the R&A have not made a blanket rule they have just said that clubs can create a local rule to allow them, some clubs don't want them.
rosecott
Money List Winner
I'd be interested if anyone know any clubs who don't?
palindromicbob
Tour Winner
As Freddie has said if a local rule is in place then yes otherwise no.
Ones that measure more than distance aren't allowed even if a local rule is in place to allow DMD's.
http://www.randa.org/RandA/News/New...les-Regarding-Distance-Measuring-Devices.aspx
Ones that measure more than distance aren't allowed even if a local rule is in place to allow DMD's.
http://www.randa.org/RandA/News/New...les-Regarding-Distance-Measuring-Devices.aspx
chrisd
Major Champion
Sunningdale said that their courses wern't mapped by Skycaddie, so I guess they may not allow them in comps
Colin L
Tour Winner
To be precise, the R&A/USGA have made a blanket rule prohibiting their use (Rule 14-3). Decision 14-3/0.5, however, permits a local rule allowing their use. It's not just being fussy to point that out: it is important to remember that the default position is that the Rules don't allow them.
Farneyman
Tour Winner
Does that include mobile phones that have an app? If the club have a local rule are they ok?
Foxholer
Blackballed
This is not what the thread is about!
Check out any of the dozens of other threads - many now out of date - on phones as DMDs! Or (dare I say) start (yet) another one!
But the simple answer is... some are; some aren't. So get yours vetted by your Club or the R&A.
nemicu
Head Pro
Yes they are - provided that the phone only has the function allowed according to the rules of golf. That means you may not use a phone with any apps (whether you use them or not) that do not comply with the rules - or which assist the player in making a stroke or in his/her play. Apps such a green and slope reading are available and even if you don't use them, if they are installed on your phone then you are likely to be disqualified. As with most comps, it's always best to check prior to starting your round. Personally, I'd rather no artificial electronic devices were allowed, but new decisions are already in place to allow the pesky things. The chances are if you know your home course well enough, then yardages become second nature and distance measuring devices are less likely to be required. I've certainly played a few comps where they were stipulated not to be used.
Farneyman
Tour Winner
Thank you for the helpful response. Its not for me it was a query I was trying to find out.
What an arsey reply...Here was me thinking this was a forum where you could ask questions!
Colin L
Tour Winner
It entirely depends on the nature of the app. I don't think my app that tells me the arrival time of the next Lothian bus is a problem
But yes, the local rule will allow the use of a mobile phone for distance measuring provided it meets the requirements outlined in the flowchart referred to above.
Foxholer
Blackballed
Tough!
If it snuffs out yet another thread-jack with a zillion posts discussing Phones as DMDs, it's achieved its purpose.
Here's a pointer to the Flowchart to refer to - effective/changed as of 1/1/2014. http://www.randa.org/en/Equipment/E...ublications/2014/DMD flowchart v2_Jan 14.ashx
Compass doesn't make the device non-compliant - as of 1/1/2014; thermometer type sensor does! Club recommendation in the App certainly makes it non-compliant.
Having an App to (Internet) Weather info is almost certainly OK - even with 'temperature'. But if it is actually used to do so during the round, then it's a breach - penalty DQ!
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Farneyman
Tour Winner
Don't reply then ya diddy. I asked a simple question on a forum, tread jack wtf is that???? thought that was the whole idea...didn't realise you were Mr Golf Monthly and it was your baw....
Your lucky its St. Patricks Day an Im in a good mood .
Welcome to my ignore list...8000+ posts of boring blahblahblah
Fyldewhite
Tour Winner
Royal Lytham.
Colin L
Tour Winner
At this time on St Patrick's Day, should you still be capable of writing anything on a forum?
Hope you've had a good one, but go easy!
palindromicbob
Tour Winner
Only if this information relates to a precise location on the course. Accessing general weather information (which is what most weather apps display) is allowed. This is also clarified in decision 14-3/18.
The DMD app must only be capable of measuring distance and any non-conforming apps (even if not used) on the phone will make the use of the phone a breech. As a general rule with regards to phones avoid Samsung. Most of the recent flag ship models have hardware features that make them non-conforming.
Also worth noting that all R&A events for amateurs in 2014 will adopt the local ruling with the open championship and open qualifiers being the only exceptions.
This highlights an important thing to be aware of for anyone that plays in big comps that may be hosted at others courses.
You need to clarify the status of DMD's with the committee organizing the competition. Don't just rely on the clubs normal stance.
e.g: a club hosting and R&A event might not allow them for their comps but since the R&A are the committee for the event then they are allowed.
Equally you might be playing in a competition at your home course where DMD's are allowed but the event is organised by an external committee who doesn't allow them.
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Spuddy
Challenge Tour Pro
Just to clarify, you're allowed to access weather reports on your phone during a round.
palindromicbob
Tour Winner
Yes
Spuddy
Challenge Tour Pro
It wasn't a question.... I was clarifying it to foxholer and you got in before me :thup:
Foxholer
Blackballed
Indeed. That's why I used the 'almost certainly' phrase. But blew it by a badly worded next sentence! Should have mentioned the 'precise location' or 'forecast' aspect.
Forecast or 'area' temps are ok. Getting temperature for precise location isn't.
