Any pro's use regular shafts?

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Reason I ask, is with their SS they are usually automatically S or XS.....understandably.

2 years ago I went for 3 driver shaft fittings and this year got the TM fitting, my SS is 105mph with driver and 88mph with 6 iron. Each of the fitters after about 5 swings all rolled out the stiff shafts and 2 tried XS in the mix. None of them hit the right combo with me, some shafts performed better with certain heads etc but nothing consistent enough to buy:(

Then by chance I tried 2 mates drivers on different days and hit them both very well albeit pretty high, both turned out to be reg shafts but HL heads, went to AG and bought a 9.5* with reg shaft and its the best and most fun I've had with a driver in years! Tested the Titleist 913 recently with reg Diamana and that was also fantastic (for me, and on the range).

The above got me wondering if any pro's(or anyone else) are using what works for them or are they S or R because "they should be"?
 
Probably and age thing Colin... :whistle:

Surprised though, as you were smashing the r1!!


As for your actual question, I have no idea! Sorry, couldn't resist!
 
I would doubt any Pros are using regular shafts purely form the spin aspect.
I've used regulars in drivers and I can get them reasonably straight but with loads of spin that impacts distance.
Going to a stiffer shaft brings the spin down but then I lose accuracy but then Me and Drivers have never got on..
Obviously a Tour Pro doesn't have that problem but even if they could swing smoothly enough to get away with regulars they must put too much spin on the ball for them to get to the distances they need consistently....
 
I've know idea about the pros but am interested to know.

I have never been fitted for regular shafts in any club and have been fitted many times. However after being fitted for my current irons, we had all the numbers sorted, PX 5.5 again. As I was walking away we got chatting about the DG SL S300, the fitter told me he had never fitted it for anyone or hit it himself. For fun we gave it a rip, I hated it and for who knows why he asked me to try the R300. Best results all day, it feels robust, better numbers than anything else, I don't look back. Pretty sure it's not going to happen in my woods though.
 
Id be suprised if many use stiff shafts i dont expect any use regular. Do you still swing at 105 with your reg flex or have you pulled it back?
 
I know an ex-Tour Pro, now Senior, who uses Regular.

Pros with their much better swing consistency could probably even use even softer flex.

However, most are frightened of the hook, so anything that helps eliminate that, which is normally stiffer, is preferred.

My mate has the opposite problem. Anything stiff is liable to cause an unconscious adjustment and a hook is likely! So he favours a (push-) fade.
 
lyden said:
Id be suprised if many use stiff shafts i dont expect any use regular. Do you still swing at 105 with your reg flex or have you pulled it back?
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I don't/can't/don't like, holding back on any swing, the R flex seems to inspire confidence to let rip. Possibly like Foxys mate a pull hook is my nemesis shot with a boardy stiff driver flex, the R gives a slight push fade as a bad one.
My 3 wood is TP stiff and 4 wood is stiff, irons are SL S300...but the Titleist tour blades I used for 14 years as a young man are in the garage and I had to check them tonight....regular shafts:eek:

last year my MP69's were X stiff and I hit them also very well:rolleyes:
 
There are varying amounts of stiffness in all the categories of regular and stiff etc. It sounds like you could look at something that is tip stiff in regular .. But I mean really tip stiff, this would reduce hooking etc but maximise energy because your using the shaft more to its limit. Unlike just plugging in a stiff. The real problem is you have started on the holy grail search:(
 
Jim Furyk uses Regular flex, hardstepped once, so midway between Reg and Stiff, in his irons.

But he also uses X flex in his driver, so who knows. His driver swing speed is just under 100mph, so his 6 iron speed is likely to be in the low 90s range, so most fitting algorithms would put him in a solid Stiff flex, possibly even X. But he must like the feel or trajectory of the shaft, so good luck to him.

Pros with a smooth consistent tempo can get away with a wide range of flexes. I saw Michael Campbell at a clinic where he hit a driver with a L flex shaft in it and he hit it almost exactly the same as his own X flex.
 
Ethan said:
Jim Furyk uses Regular flex, hardstepped once, so midway between Reg and Stiff, in his irons.

But he also uses X flex in his driver, so who knows. His driver swing speed is just under 100mph, so his 6 iron speed is likely to be in the low 90s range, so most fitting algorithms would put him in a solid Stiff flex, possibly even X. But he must like the feel or trajectory of the shaft, so good luck to him.

Pros with a smooth consistent tempo can get away with a wide range of flexes. I saw Michael Campbell at a clinic where he hit a driver with a L flex shaft in it and he hit it almost exactly the same as his own X flex.
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jims driver swing speed under 100mph? don't be silly? under 100 wouldn't carry over 250 yards. are you seriously telling me that jim has a slower driver swing than 99% of this board. :rofl:
 
Shaft stiffness pertains to how you load the shaft in the downswing, eg: some people have a smooth swing whilst others may rely on a later hit. Someone who is working on his swing may be able to hit their driver one day, and not the next if they have changed something. The pro's have grooved their swings for so long they can get a club that fits their swing..... until their sponsor brings out a new club and then they get fit again!!
 
I was suprised that I managed to hit my R11s with standard reg shaft much better than the TP stiff shaft that I had previously been using. Had a hit of a friends R1 with the standard TM reg shaft and bombed it, which is probably a combination of the low spin characteristics and once again me being more suited to a reg shaft.

No pennies to swap my driver out now though, and haven't been very successful with trying to broker a deal for an R1 with him either :)
 
Ethan said:
But he also uses X flex in his driver, so who knows. His driver swing speed is just under 100mph....

Pros with a smooth consistent tempo can get away with a wide range of flexes. I saw Michael Campbell at a clinic where he hit a driver with a L flex shaft in it and he hit it almost exactly the same as his own X flex.
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garyinderry said:
jims driver swing speed under 100mph? don't be silly? under 100 wouldn't carry over 250 yards. are you seriously telling me that jim has a slower driver swing than 99% of this board. :rofl:
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I've seen stats showing him swinging at 106-110 with distances that correspond to his PGA stats (276)

I'm pretty sure he's got a more consistent one than any on here - which is more important. Wouldn't say it as 'nicer looking' though! :rolleyes:

Cambo's demo reflects what I've seen other Pros do. I'm surprised how low he hits it btw.

And I wonder if it's significant that there are more Major winners in the bottom 20 of the PG Driving distances than there are in the top 20!
 
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Foxholer said:
I've seen stats showing him swinging at 106-110 with distances that correspond to his PGA stats (276)

I'm pretty sure he's got a more consistent one than any on here - which is more important. Wouldn't say it as 'nicer looking' though! :rolleyes:

Cambo's demo reflects what I've seen other Pros do. I'm surprised how low he hits it btw.

And I wonder if it's significant that there are more Major winners in the bottom 20 of the PG Driving distances than there are in the top 20!
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Looks nice through impact, which is the only place it matters.......
 
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