Another stack-n-tilt thread - oh no!!

[JustOne]

Just stumbled across this video which explains the logic behind the golf swing, thought it might be interesting (to some).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQfiABMRSkg

No feckin' arguing!

 

[richart]

Can i book the full half hour argument ?

 

[Andy]

Gr8 quality video, easy to understand and will help the slicer's out there.

Andy

 

[JustOne]

Can i book the full half hour argument ?

It's £40 for ½hr, I'm a pro

 

[richart]

Can i book the full half hour argument ?

It's £40 for ½hr, I'm a pro

Everyone has to be good at something

 

[golfstick]

you could stack and tilt........or swing properly for better results

 

[chrisd]

It's £40 for ½hr, I'm a pro

What? and had sex with Wayne Rooney and all that?


Chris

 

[percy_layer]

Just stumbled across this video which explains the logic behind the golf swing, thought it might be interesting (to some).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQfiABMRSkg

No feckin' arguing!

Good find.
Not convinced about the reasoning though. Wonder if there's a video on there that moves the swing paths around to show that the same technique would fix a hook and a top.
Not looking to argue with what works for you but i don't personnally know a single teaching pro that promotes S&T. Some elements of it are very good, but they're the same elements that are also incorporated in the 'traditional' golf swing.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Shame the music sounded like a 70's porno film but some interesting points. I've already said I'll dabble in the black art of S&T over the winter following on from playing with James this year and him explaining it in greater detail. I can see the logic behind it. Whether I have the patience and commitment to incorporate the changes is a different matter but I'll see what happens.

 

[JustOne]

... but they're the same elements that are also incorporated in the 'traditional' golf swing.

That's an interesting thing to say, I've just found another vid which (to me) is fascinating...


nb: I'm not ARGUING here, merely discussing....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqHMmMLW9J0


The pro here 'accidentally' shows a kind of stack and tilt motion with the driver, he shows the clubface coming into the ball and pointing right, then adds something about it going out of bounds... wrong, if you look again that clubhead has come into the ball substantially from the inside (1min 11sec) which will impart an excellent amount of draw spin... the perfect draw starting (as he says) down the right side of the fairway - but then drawing back in!

He then goes on to show his 'traditional' version by leaning back (look how loaded he is on his right side). The clubface comes into the ball square apparently... it also come in from the OUTSIDE! (Watch carefully at about 1:53) Now if the club comes from the outside with a square clubface what do we have? that's right a SLICE

Madness... just plain mad. If you want to hit a draw then the clubface HAS to point to the right at impact so that the ball actually starts to the right.

He is correct in only one part, he's right that you don't want your body to get too far ahead of the ball as that will take loft off and/or make you sky the ball ocassionally (too steep). The rest is poppycock

The shot he hits at the end almost looks like a nice high slice! Well it does to me

With this kind of information being taught everyone's fecked!

I cannot for the life of me understand how that video can be labelled 'Fixing a slice with a driver'!!

 

[Robobum]

What do you do if you want to hit a "stack & tilt" cut??

 

[JustOne]

What do you do if you want to hit a "stack & tilt" cut??

I set up for a cut

 

[golfstick]

i think when it said "slightly close club face a setup" - this should have been an indication that this method is gash haha

 

[Robobum]

What do you do if you want to hit a "stack & tilt" cut??

I set up for a cut

The geezer rambling on in the South Park video, said that stack & tilt corrects that horrible left to right spinning shot?

 

[JustOne]

i think when it said "slightly close club face a setup" - this should have been an indication that this method is gash haha

You'd do that if you wanted to hit it dead straight, for a draw you set up with the face square/slightly open according to the amount of draw you require.

But gash if you like haha hehe haha

 

[HawkeyeMS]

I must say I find all this talk of S&T vs conventional golf swing quite interesting but also a little confusing.

If I stand on the 1st tee of any golf course on a weekend and watch, I'll see a whole multitude of swings. Some of those swings I'll wonder how people ever hit the ball and some of those players will be better golfers than me.

I then watch the PGA Tour and I'll see Luke Donald with his picture perfect swing coming 2nd to Jim Furyk who looks like an Octopus knitting a jumper.

I'll see Dustin Johnson hitting the ball a country mile with a take-away that looks remarkably similar to the one I've been having taught out of me for the last 9 months and would make most teaching pro's cringe.

What they all have in common is they all deliver the clubhead back to the ball in a position that sends the ball towards the target. It matters not how it gets there.

Whether S&T is better than conventional it's impossible to say because next to no-one teaches it so next to no-one uses it but it doesn't matter.

Whatever works for you is a good golf swing, nothing else really matters.

 

[JustOne]

What do you do if you want to hit a "stack & tilt" cut??

I set up for a cut

The geezer rambling on in the South Park video, said that stack & tilt corrects that horrible left to right spinning shot?

It does but you can 'undo it' to a degree according to the shot shape you require, same as the traditional swing. Open the shoulders, move the ball a fraction forward, close the clubface to start the ball left etc etc It's about where you hit the ball on the swingpath - point of tangency.

 

[Whereditgo]

The geezer rambling on in the South Park video, said that stack & tilt corrects that horrible left to right spinning shot?

Yeah, when set up square......but if you set up with an open stance surely it going to cut?

 

[percy_layer]

... but they're the same elements that are also incorporated in the 'traditional' golf swing.

That's an interesting thing to say, I've just found another vid which (to me) is fascinating...

That video made me cringe.........

It showed his weight on his back foot when striking through the ball and also the spine tilting back from the ball position into the followthrough............

I liked your first youtube find better....

 

[golfstick]

i think when it said "slightly close club face a setup" - this should have been an indication that this method is gash haha

You'd do that if you wanted to hit it dead straight, for a draw you set up with the face square/slightly open according to the amount of draw you require.

But gash if you like haha hehe haha

if i wanted to hit it straight id have my club face square.....hmmm