Annual Review

[Imurg]

I've never been affected by the AR at any club I've been a member at and, up until a year or 2 ago, didn't even know it was done!
Obviously, competition rounds are taken into account but what else.?
We play a Winter League, Stableford from the yellow Tees. Should/could these be used in the calculation? There is a SSS of 69 to a par of 70 and we don't use temp greens......
Also, what sort of level of results gets you a cut/raise..? How many buffer and under before you get cut..?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I normally look at all the KO's both singles and pairs , results in any non qualifiers , how their general play is in relevance to their actual HC - basically use the clause HC relevant to ability

There is a formula that the software runs which calculates the recommendations

 

[Old Skier]

I've never been affected by the AR at any club I've been a member at and, up until a year or 2 ago, didn't even know it was done!
Obviously, competition rounds are taken into account but what else.?
We play a Winter League, Stableford from the yellow Tees. Should/could these be used in the calculation? There is a SSS of 69 to a par of 70 and we don't use temp greens......
Also, what sort of level of results gets you a cut/raise..? How many buffer and under before you get cut..?

Kts a bit subjective and unfortunately not an exact science and a decent comp committee will submit info on comps that are not Q.

Q obviously are normally all computerized now and reports are run at the end of year with information and recommendations that should be considered along with other information.

 

[Imurg]

So is there a ball park figure, say buffer or better in X% of rounds = a cut..?
Or is locked in the software and on a need to know..?:rofl:

 

[Deleted member 15344]

So is there a ball park figure, say buffer or better in X% of rounds = a cut..?
Or is locked in the software and on a need to know..?:rofl:

http://www.congu.com/faqs/old_site/Review of Handicaps.pdf

Enjoy

 

[Imurg]

http://www.congu.com/faqs/old_site/Review of Handicaps.pdf

Enjoy

I would say Thanks but now my brain hurts....

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I would say Thanks but now my brain hurts....

It's certainly not light reading - I'll just let the software do the formula

 

[ger147]

I would say Thanks but now my brain hurts....

The AR review formula is much like the Sun i.e. if you look directly at it you'll go blind, or is that blonde?

 

[Old Skier]

So is there a ball park figure, say buffer or better in X% of rounds = a cut..?
Or is locked in the software and on a need to know..?:rofl:

Now you know why nobody wants to explain it oo:

 

[patricks148]

surely i must also depend on how many qualifying comps you have played???

if you have played a fair few and not been cut, why should you on a few bounce games?

 

[Old Skier]

If by bounce games you mean non official games then they are not.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Never been affected. No idea how it works and to be honest happy that way. I see the benefit of it helping those that haven't had a great season and no qualms with it.

 

[DCB]

As has been said, it would drive you round the bend trying to work it out, but, you can if you want to. The software will make its recommendations and highlight the players and the cut they are suggested to recieve. All it needs is committe members to review the suggestions and either implement them or decide not to implement them. It's a simple process when done that way.

 

[moogie]

Are lifts given out to those that have struggled too in the AR..??
Is the formula / criteria just as complicated??

 

[rosecott]

Are lifts given out to those that have struggled too in the AR..??
Is the formula / criteria just as complicated??

Indeed yes. It applies in exactly the same way.

 

[duncan mackie]

Are lifts given out to those that have struggled too in the AR..??
Is the formula / criteria just as complicated??

Yea - we increase far more than get decreased. Then again the system will include the sort of elements that currently drive this through the year from 2016 (think reverse ESR).

There are 2 key elements at play - the system derived recommendations based on on 4 or more returned Q scores and any committee derived ones. Most don't do the latter now as they feel the former does it for them - we look seperate at everyone who has played 3 qualifiers simply because the system doesn't!

Once you have these you need to look into the data, consider any additional information you have, consider any more golf data that you consider pertinent and conclude what, if any, adjustment should be made to ensure the player's handicap reflects his ability consistent with the system.

In theory a players performance in a matchplay or NQ event should not be used in isolation to trigger a review, but if the system triggers a review it would be an obvious factor to support any decision.

 

[USER1999]

I went up a shot one year, and then they took it off me the year afterwards. Complete waste of time in my view.

If you can't play to your handicap, practice, have lessons, or put more cards in.

If you are better than your handicap, put more cards in, and stop sand bagging.

 

[rosecott]

I went up a shot one year, and then they took it off me the year afterwards. Complete waste of time in my view.

If you can't play to your handicap, practice, have lessons, or put more cards in.

If you are better than your handicap, put more cards in, and stop sand bagging.

Perhaps, in the intervening year, your performance merited a decrease. That does not mean that an increase for the previous year's performance was not justified. You say it was a waste of time but Handicap Committees do not have a crystal ball.

 

[USER1999]

No, but they could ask if you wanted the shot back. In my case, no, I don't. Just because I struggled in some comps doesn't mean I'm not tearing it a new one every Friday.

 

[2blue]

No, but they could ask if you wanted the shot back. In my case, no, I don't. Just because I struggled in some comps doesn't mean I'm not tearing it a new one every Friday.

Not good to give people that choice...where would it ever end?