Am I right to be dissapointed?

minty18

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Dear Mr. Phillips,



Thank you very much for your e-mail to our office requesting our support and assistance.



Whilst I read your letter with interest, I must stress that you are among many people who write to our organization requesting our support. As you will no doubt appreciate, we do have a limited budget for this purpose and, as such, we are not in a position to offer our support to every request we receive.



This means, unfortunately, that we are unable to help you on this occasion. I realize that this will be a disappointment to you, but I stress that _________ would like to support all deserving applications if resources permitted.



Thank you for your interest and I wish you every success in your endeavours


The above is pretty much the standard template I have had from all the Golf manufacturers I have written to requesting a help for the charity day. This is not a name and shame mission hence the reason I have left out the company details however I do feel a tad dissapointed in the responses.

Now all companies mention that they have charities that they support and i totally respect that but surely they could atleast send out ball markers for the field taking part or a cap to give out as a prize? both probly cost the company/s a few pence to make.

Maybe I'm being harsh as i'm sure all the brands give more than enough to charity but I own over £500's worth of golf gear and probly spend £250+ a year on other golf equipment(balls, gloves, clothing etc). I suspect on the day with 30+ golfers in the field they'll be in excess of £9000's worth of golf equipment being carted aound the course.

Not too sure where i'm going with this but just wanted to vent some anger.... it might be cause i've just had a bad round of golf... let me know if i'm being too sensitive on the issue.
 

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I can understand your disappointment, but I can also understand that they don't have a budget to help out everybody that asks for support for a charity golfing day (I'd imagine that there is a few)

I would have thought that you would have better luck asking local businesses especially if you manage to sort out a column or two in the local paper for the event?
 

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Up to a point, yes be disappointed. But in reality, as Sneds says, they can't help out everyone. I can only imagine how many requests like yours they get and if tey supported everything they'd end up making a loss! Ok maybe not but you get the picture.

What about going through the Pro at the course? maybe he has some contacts and can get some gear that way. Doesn't hurt to ask.

Good luck with it!
 

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As soon as I read the word 'organization' I knew it was a big elbow. They (organizations) will justify it by saying they support their own charitable foundations that most probably are not on this side of the pond. They take our hard earned with a loving smileon their faces but dont want to share some of their profits we give them.


Name and shame them to me in a PM and I will boycott their ORGANIZATION.
 

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I'm confused, you're boycotting a firm because they can't support a charity golf day?

You have to bear in mind the type of precedence they would set themselves if they decided to support these type of charity days.

I'm not saying that they're correct to have this stance, and I understand the disappointment here, but I think you're being a bit extreme.

If you boycotted every company that didn't support a charity day, you'd soon be playing with homemade clubs. I don't understand the mentality that because you may of bought their products that they have an obligation to help everybody that asks for support.
 

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Madandra.... My first thought when i read the replys was bo!!ox i'm not buying from them again but i'm afraid to say that ALL the big names you'll see in any golf store up and down the UK have replied with pretty much word for word the same response.... therefore I think we'd be playing with home made clubs if we want to take this stance.

Sneds, I see your side of the picture and thats why i havent come on here giving a full rant about each individual company and I know that they must have thousands of requests every week BUT..........

GM have put up 2x 1year subscribtions for the magazine, a pretty tidy prize i feel and pretty generous(i hope they dont mind me saying they've done that), now lets put in to context how much GM(ipcmedia) make and how much these big brands make. No disrespect to GM but i'm sure profit wise we are talking worlds apart.
 

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Is this an attempt to raise £ for the alzheimer's fund raiser im hoping to play in?

If it is why don't you make it fancy dress and get players to get mates / family to sponsor them?

I have a Borat swim suit ready for an airing.............
 

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I did say that when I wrote to TM and Cally for a hospital fundraiser for Berkshire Cancer Centre and with our media department on board they still wouldn't budge. As a suggestion I wrote to the European Tour HQ at Wentworth a few years back for an event I did and got a load of stuff left over from the Volvo Championship.

I'm not saying they will help as they also have a list of preferred charities but if you ask for some ball markers etc and see what else comes along
 

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Is this an attempt to raise £ for the alzheimer's fund raiser im hoping to play in?

If it is why don't you make it fancy dress and get players to get mates / family to sponsor them?

I have a Borat swim suit ready for an airing.............

I've got you down as a confirmed player HTL and your idea of fancy dress isnt bad at all however a Mankini in March could leave the women some what dissapointed with contents?

Sponsorship seems a good idea.
 

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I cant understand any company, sorry organisation, that cant see a simple opportunity when it comes to things like this. You don’t need a big budget to send along some small bits and bobs for this. The good will gained and the indirect return has got to be worth it, considering it is a charity golf event.

If you make a reasonable request why not name them. Because they said no doesn’t mean you cant say who said no.
 

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As soon as I read the word 'organization' I knew it was a big elbow. They (organizations) will justify it by saying they support their own charitable foundations that most probably are not on this side of the pond. They take our hard earned with a loving smileon their faces but dont want to share some of their profits we give them.


Name and shame them to me in a PM and I will boycott their ORGANIZATION.

What Sneds has said is right on the ball. I also work for an "organisation" (not in the golf line) that also gets hit up like this all the time for branded gear.

So where do you draw the line? Do you employ someone to deal with all the requests? Or do you pick and choose randomly? Or do you just blanket turn them all down, but support your own initiatives?

Joe public is far too quick to point the finger at "wealthy" organisations without actually thinking of the logistics involved, and how many requests they have on a regular basis.
 

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Minty, the last time I did any major charity thing, it wasnt golf orientated, but I got similar responses over and over, but I just kept going over a long period and many approaches later successfully raised over £1000.

Have you thought of addressing some pro's for memorabilia that maybe you could auction after the golf, maybe a bit more work I know but in the current climate I think prize sponsors may be thin on the ground. I do hope you succeed though, I know how much work and effort it takes to do what your doing,good luck.
 

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I work for a company that sells good all round the world and yes we draw a line as well…………..but not at an opportunity that directly involves our product. If I was personally organising a “good cause” golf charity day I would not be disappointed if say JCB said sorry, but I would be disappointed if Taylor Made said sorry.
 
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Best to target the "reps" they usually have a few bits of kit that they can "lose", go through your local pro or the pro at the course which is holding your event. They have contacts.
 

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You've probably already covered this track, but approach the local pro's who may be able to get gear off the reps or may have gear themselves that they wouldn't mind donating.

I can understand why the golf company hqs are politely refusing. Think how many golf clubs there are, they would not be able to say yes to one without setting a standard they could not follow.
 
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