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AmandaJR

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So, Brampton Park GC (my new course) and the Par 3 4th, SI1 and well worthy of its tag as one of the most difficult Par 3's in the country. I'm sure some clever bod can find some sort of google earth thingy with it on BUT in essence it is a longish Par 3 with water in front, behind, down the left, down the right and also a tight shot with many trees and overhanging branches. It's 155yds off the reds with about 148 of that being carry if you're going for the heart of the green. The left hand side allows for some inaccuracy as the water hazard in front doesn't carry all the way across but there are trees and water all the way if you stray too far left.

With me so far??

Ok...so there is a "lay up" between the pond in front of the tee boxes and the water in front of the green. It isn't very nice ground though as it gets so little sunlight so sparse grass and generally, at best, a scruffy lie.

My coach and the club pro tell me it is a shot I should always take on as 1. I can do it, 2. I need to start thinking like a single figure golfer. BUT it is not a % shot for me. Currently I'm averaging 1.1 over having only hit the green 25% of the time. Sometimes I have taken the lay up option within that as when it was winter rules you could pick and place on the middle "fairway". Two medals so far and a 5 in one (splash) and a 3 in the other (genuine birdie chance). My problem is I tend to cut the shot just a tad and leak right which means there is nothing but water to land in!

So on Tuesday in the medal my partner told me she had played a few times with a county champion of many years who played off 2. She never went for it but play the on in two option and often close enough for a good par chance and at worse walked off with a 4. I said I wasn't keen on the lay up as playing a tricky chip off a bare lie and a short carry over water was risky. She said though that said player would take a club off the tee that ensured a full shot to the green and therefore less troubled by the lie.

Still with me....?!

Today I hit gap wedge, wedge and was a bit past the middle of the green and a bit long for the pin but easily walked off with a 4. Another day it would be 2 x gap wedges or the same if the pin was at the back. My lie was bare on the approach but as it was a full shot it didn't bother me too much and just made sure I committed to the shot.

It feels the right option to take unless I can improve my accuracy when going for the green off the tee. I don't often go against what my coach advises but this one has me wondering...

What do you think?

Tomorrow's practice round I plan a different approach as it should be well within my 5 iron distance but I take my hybrid - generally more accurate with the 5 iron and certainly never cut it but it's one of those daunting shots where it's tempting to take a bit more club. County Champs on Friday - 36 holes - and I'm thinking I'd take 2 4's thank you very much!
 

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Go for it in one, no question.

Would you lay up if the water wasn't there ?

Nope ? Didn't think so.

Reminds me of a player I occasionally play with who says "what's left/right of the fairway?".

Who cares. Just have confidence in your swing and forget everything but the green/fairway you're aiming for.
 

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if you have 12 shots to use then id suggest using one on this. sounds like a real card wreaker.


its so early in the round too. no real point dumping one (or more) in the water and running up a big number early doors.

there is two holes on the front 9 at my old course where I would take a bogey at the tee and walk to the next hole if it was offered to me. if they are into the wind id snap your hand off for a bogey.
 

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Interesting - 2 replies and 2 very different opinions. By the way the 1st is very difficult and the approach to the green almost mirrors the approach to the 4th. It's SI 3, the 3rd is SI 5 - so a tough start to any round...

Edit - water in front doesn't phase me as previous course had loads of the stuff. It's the water carrying all round the right side of the green and very tight to it which catches me out...
 

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I'd be tempted to go for it every time. If I wasnt feeling too confident I'd take a 9 Iron to the middle of the fairway, then a little pitch to the green
 

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can you not just lay up quite easily here ? :confused:
 

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Yes that is the lay up area and it's easy to do. As I said the lie is usually dodgy at best but leaving a full shot rather than a delicate chip worked today.
 

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how far did you leave?


I think the best bet would be to take what ever club will leave you short of the water around the green then just clip it on and try to get up and down.
 

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I left 80yds because the nearer you get the rougher the ground gets and it's not easy to get loft and check on the ball.
 

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In competition play I would hit the club that leaves me just short of the water around the green and try to get up and down as well. As long as im anywhere on the green for 2 im confident i can 2 putt for a 4. Ive got 19 shots though so plenty to burn :D

In any other type of play etc i would go for it though.
 

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If you are not confident of making the green, play something up 20 or 30 yards short of the front and water and chip on. May get a 3, may get a 4, but probably takes 5 off the table.
 

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Take it on, middle of the green. Job done.... no frills... take an extra club so you don't lose balance trying to 'swing outta your shoes'. Looks like an easy birdie chance........ :whistle:

IF you dump one in the water you should be dropping for 2, on in 3 and still have a putt for a 4.... nothing worse than a 5 though, not exactly a card wrecker.
 
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Take it on, middle of the green. Job done.... no frills... take an extra club so you don't lose balance trying to 'swing outta your shoes'. Looks like an easy birdie chance........ :whistle:

I'm thinking that's why I cut the hybrid as I'm swinging too hard plus aiming left - never a good thing for me!
 
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