Acceptable movement

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Ok....
Everybody on here can relate in some way,shape or form to wanting to or being able to hit a standard shape of shot.....

And yes its an absolute gift to be able to hit them all but lets face it, if we could do that we'd be joining them on TV....

So can someone tell me what is the acceptable movement for the ball to the target....I ask because maybe im looking for too much and being too hard on myself...
As the weather here is only for ducks and me being down with a dose of man flu then it was range time for me this morning and a chance to iron out a few flaws....

When im working on a particular problem its always with a mid iron the 6 in my case....Iv sorted my case of the unmentionable it was a case of standing too upright and too close to the ball...
So this morning i had the range to myself and stood bang centre in the middle and just kept knocking balls until i got a flight that i was happy with...It was about 6-7 yards of a draw with a considerable change in my grip from what had been on the strong side to a more neutral position....

I just hope that when i get the rest of my clubs in hand that they listen. :)
 
I don't try and work on any particular movement. I'm looking for a good ball strike and hopefully going straight. I can (in theory) move it both ways but tend not to because I can't control it as I want. I'll stick with trying to find something with less moving parts and more reliable (could be a long wait)
 
As long as the ball lands someone near your target, does it matter? I hit the ball pretty straight so that what I look for but if it draws a bit or fades a bit I don't care as long as it's somewhere near where I aimed it.
 
So fella's,
Would i be correct in saying that if i am now drawing the ball that in textbook and teaching terms im actually approaching the ball from inside to out and that i have thought myself the opposite shape of what i actually had?
 
kid2 said:
So fella's,
Would i be correct in saying that if i am now drawing the ball that in textbook and teaching terms im actually approaching the ball from inside to out and that i have thought myself the opposite shape of what i actually had?
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If you can repeat it on the course then the answer I guess is yes
 
HawkeyeMS said:
If you can repeat it on the course then the answer I guess is yes
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Wishful thinking Hawkeye....;)
Funny part about the course is having the confidence to aim right of your intended target when you've spent the last 2 years aiming left of it :)
 
kid, for me the answer lies in your hc. from a 16 capper do you expect honest to hit a consistant 4/5/6 yard draw... if so i think your honestly asking too much from yourself. that sort of consistency is lower single figure golf, not 16hc.

generally my ball will either be straight or a soft fade, with maybe 5/6/7 yards of movement, with the odd soft draw if i put a dodgy swing in.... do i worry, not really, i dont expect precision golf off 12. its amazing how when you take the pressure away from the game how much easier it is to score.
 
Oddsocks said:
kid, for me the answer lies in your hc. from a 16 capper do you expect honest to hit a consistant 4/5/6 yard draw... if so i think your honestly asking too much from yourself. that sort of consistency is lower single figure golf, not 16hc.

generally my ball will either be straight or a soft fade, with maybe 5/6/7 yards of movement, with the odd soft draw if i put a dodgy swing in.... do i worry, not really, i dont expect precision golf off 12. its amazing how when you take the pressure away from the game how much easier it is to score.
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Oddsocks thata a very nice way of looking at it....As you say off 16 i may be looking for too much.....Where i struggle is off the tee at times with wild shots....Any of the good rounds that i have had looking back i played very well off the tee for the round....

Im a pretty good putter and when i need to scramble im a little better than average.
 
I am looking for a five yard draw as a stock shot, with options to fade, or hit a bit more draw.

I can hit it straight, but with options of going either way it is not a percentage shot. If I can get the five yard draw, or near enough, I will be happy.
 
murphthemog said:
I am looking for a five yard draw as a stock shot, with options to fade, or hit a bit more draw.

I can hit it straight, but with options of going either way it is not a percentage shot. If I can get the five yard draw, or near enough, I will be happy.
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Im not wrong in pushing myself so Murph......

Funny thing is even though iv spent a good deal of the year trying to change my swing path....Im still able to fade the ball when i want....
 
JustOne said:
It doesn't matter if you hit straight or 15yds of curve as long as it lands on or close enough to where you wanted it to.
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The weird thing about this James is the more i flip between this thread and the One about drawing the ball the more things are starting to make sense :)
 
Jack Nicholas is a guy that many forumers on here reckon is the greatest player of all time, after all he did win a few things here and there.... :mad:

His philosophy was that he'd aim at the left side of every green and play a fade that lands in the middle of the green. If he didn't get the fade he was on the left edge, if he did get the fade he was in the middle and if he overcooked it he was on the right... so he was always on the green!

Do the opposite with a draw and you've got exactly the same principle, it DOESN'T MATTER how well or badly you shape the ball it's all about HITTING IT PROPERLY without slicing/duffing/snaphooking/fatting or thinning (or shanking in Murph's case). Now in my opinion that means finding a method/style/swing or whatever you want to call it that will give you the BEST CHANCE of simply hitting the ball with the most consistent quality of strike......

Is that making sense a little?



Did I ever mention something called stack an.......... :whistle:
 
JustOne said:
Jack Nicholas is a guy that many forumers on here reckon is the greatest player of all time, after all he did win a few things here and there.... :mad:

His philosophy was that he'd aim at the left side of every green and play a fade that lands in the middle of the green. If he didn't get the fade he was on the left edge, if he did get the fade he was in the middle and if he overcooked it he was on the right... so he was always on the green!

Do the opposite with a draw and you've got exactly the same principle, it DOESN'T MATTER how well or badly you shape the ball it's all about HITTING IT PROPERLY without slicing/duffing/snaphooking/fatting or thinning (or shanking in Murph's case). Now in my opinion that means finding a method/style/swing or whatever you want to call it that will give you the BEST CHANCE of simply hitting the ball with the most consistent quality of strike......

Is that making sense a little?

:) :) :) :) perfect



Did I ever mention something called stack an.......... :whistle:
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Tried it ever so slightly at the start and messed me right up ;)
 
I would say that you should not accept the limitations of your current handicap if you have a desire to be better.

Do what is needed to improve your game, it may mean things getting worse before they improve but stick with it.

As Einstien said: "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result".
 
SocketRocket said:
I would say that you should not accept the limitations of your current handicap if you have a desire to be better.

Do what is needed to improve your game, it may mean things getting worse before they improve but stick with it.

As Einstien said: "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result".
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Thats one thing about me Brian.......Im terrible stubborn when it comes to my golf.....I have to know why it happens and how i can fix it and ill always keep at something until i crack it....Its just the way im made i suppose.
 
murphthemog said:
But hitting it straight is the hardest shot in golf. It is easier to put a bit of shape on it.
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I don't see hitting it straight as being any harder than hitting a perfect 5 yard draw or fade.

Coming back to Jack's aim left side of the green for his fade; get it right and he's by the flag, if he overcooks it he's on the right, if he under cooks it he's on the left. Surely this is no different to aiming dead centre, get it right, by the flag, bit of fade and on the right, bit of draw and on the left.
If we assume Jack's stock fade is his straight shot then his right side overcooked is a fade and his straight shot left side of the green is his draw. It's not so much about fading or drawing but about being consistent with your choice, be that straight, a fade or a draw.
If you're within 5 yards either side of your aim point then you're rolling.
 
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