had a letter from VW this morning saying the engine of my Passat estate was effected by the the "emissions issue"
anyone else had one as well?
anyone else had one as well?
A letter from VW
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Tashyboy
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Oh joy of joys, keep us posted, not sure where I stand with my seat Leon Diesel engine.
A letter saying don't worry your ok would be nice.
just says " the issue is being worked on" and once a solution is found, it will be rectified, free of charge.
want to find out if that will effect road tax, before i let them do anything
want to find out if that will effect road tax, before i let them do anything
Piece
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I read the OP thinking, no, won't be affected as I drive a Seat Exeo diesel. Posty comes and there's a SEAT headed letter. Yes, my car is affected because of the EA189 diesel engine.
"Service action required. Technical solutions are currently being developed...":angry:
Paul77
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I reckon the cars will need to be re-evaluated for tax purposes and if they are indeed putting out more fumes into the atmosphere then there will likely be an adjustment. VW will either need to limit the output by way if making the car less powerful, or just fix the hardware/software fix and let them be retested. It's not the fault of the owners, but I don't see them footing the bill for the compensation seeing that they've pinned it on the workings of two software developers who acted alone in it all.
Rather more hoping that car owners will sue someone and not them. Oh Mr MP it wasn't our fault, they acted alone, jail them, sue them not us.... Can you see where this is going?
Rather more hoping that car owners will sue someone and not them. Oh Mr MP it wasn't our fault, they acted alone, jail them, sue them not us.... Can you see where this is going?
Same engines used across the whole VAG set up so if you are Seat, VW, Audi or Skoda and you drive a diesel from that period then you are likely to be included. All have confessed up to being affected.
How things are affected tax wise is up to the govt. They don't make that decision based on an individuals car, it is across the board so whether you as an individual get yours updated or not is irrelevant. I would be very surprised if the govt altered the tax implications for cars already sold. That would be penalising the buyer, not the car company who decieved them. The buyer bought the car in good faith based on the information given.
How things are affected tax wise is up to the govt. They don't make that decision based on an individuals car, it is across the board so whether you as an individual get yours updated or not is irrelevant. I would be very surprised if the govt altered the tax implications for cars already sold. That would be penalising the buyer, not the car company who decieved them. The buyer bought the car in good faith based on the information given.
Paul77
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Question is for those who own the cars affected, would you buy VW ever again?
IanG
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On The Audi/VW/SEAT/Skoda websites there is a page where you can type in your VIN number and see if you're car is affected.
I don't but I absolutely would, especially if they were knocking out great deals to entice people back. They are still cracking cars and let's face it they will be squeaky clean from now on as everyone will be all over their cars.
Paul77
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Fair point. Goes to show that we're not quite there yet with the technology of eco cars that are also powerful. If anyone wants to check their car here's the site you need.
http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/owners/dieselinfo
Khamelion
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Have you seen though, that Honda, Mazda, Mitsubishi and Mercedes are all in the firing line as well? The claims have still to be substantiated but it wouldn't surprise me.
Smiffy
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SwingsitlikeHogan
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Meanwhile other manufacturers are working out how to manage the situation after they break their own 'bad news' over emissions? I agree with @Khameliions post as I do struggle with the idea that somehow only VW are unable to build engines that meet the emissions requirements. Or have VW being claiming that their diesel engines were 'ultra clean' compared with other manufacturers?
SwingsitlikeHogan
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I don't think they will.
Nissan is the way forward
Just got one this summer (a Qashqai) - my first Japanese car (built in Sunderland of course) and I really like it. Prefer it to my previous - a basic BMW 3-Series Tourer.
I probably would, The Passat Estate i have is really reliable, comfortable and can take two GSP's and golf clubs. No other estate i looked at had as big a boot.
Hacker Khan
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My car, an Audi, is also effected. If you have a 1.6 diesel the need to do something physical to the engine and also update the software. If you have a 2 litre diesel then they only need to update the software. Pretty sure the government have stated that no one will incur additional taxes because of this. And worse things happen at sea.
The new ones are getting rave reviews. The interesting thing is you can only get the new Passat with a diesel engine. There is no petrol option. Talk about all your eggs in one basket. For people talking about the end of the diesel engine no one seems to have told the mfrs.
la_lucha
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Contentious I know, but why shouldn't people driving these cars pay the right level of tax?
I know it's not their fault, but as someone who pays the right level of tax for my car (I hope), why should anyone pay a different amount for a car that potentially puts out the same level of emissions as mine?
I know it's not their fault, but as someone who pays the right level of tax for my car (I hope), why should anyone pay a different amount for a car that potentially puts out the same level of emissions as mine?
SwingsitlikeHogan
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Wonder what will happen when an affected car is resold. If even after remediation a car is still above the emissions target will the new owner be liable to increase tax etc. as he has bought the car knowing the revised emissions? Resale values plummet?
The cynic in me suggests that the majority of car owners don't really care about their cars emissions levels other than how they affect their pocket.
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