53 points!

It's a tough one to call depending on too many factors.
Maybe he had a great round in mild conditions, maybe there is more to it like he hasn't played all year but has been taking lessons and practising lots.
It's some score all the same.

I shot 70 on my home course off twelve for 50 points. It was just my day holes from 100 yards for eagle and four birdies with two doubles and rest pars. 74 is my best since :)
 
JT77 said:
It's a tough one to call depending on too many factors.
Maybe he had a great round in mild conditions, maybe there is more to it like he hasn't played all year but has been taking lessons and practising lots.
It's some score all the same.

I shot 70 on my home course off twelve for 50 points. It was just my day holes from 100 yards for eagle and four birdies with two doubles and rest pars. 74 is my best since :)
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So knock those 2 doubles down to a par and a bogey and, whaddya know...there's 53 points....

QED......
 
Ian_S said:
If I was a betting man I'd say he's entered his net scores rather than gross. That's got to happen more often than a 21 capper shooting 74.

On the subject of it being pointless entering handicap comps, a 5 capper at our club won our comp this week with a 72, net 67. He's a good lad, but like many on here, is always sniping about how it's impossible for him to win unless something's done about the bandits, an attitude which usually comes from hearing about stories like this than any objective look at who actually wins comps.
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this sounds the most plausible and backs up post #36
 
A lad scored 54 last year in one of stableford comps. A guy who had played quite a bit as a junior but came back to the game in his late twenties. This was about a year in to his return and everything clicked on the day. Spoke to the guys he plays with and the guys on the day and nothing fishy just had a great knock and has since dropped his hcp further. It was just a mid week stableford so nothing special, if it was fishy why not do it in a board comp or other major?
 
Imurg said:
Oh we are a suspicious, cynical lot aren't we...?

I've played with a 28'er who shot 50 points
And a 25'er who was +3 in a Medal.....

It has happened, it does happen.

The time to criticise the Handicap system is if he does it again..
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Then you're C&H guy needs a kick up the backside too. They clearly should not have been off 28 and 25. This is totally unfair to all of the other members.
 
didsbury_duffer said:
Then you're C&H guy needs a kick up the backside too. They clearly should not have been off 28 and 25. This is totally unfair to all of the other members.
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And you know this how...?

Both Guys were regular players in their mid forties. Both had been Members for 7-8 years and had been playing twice as long.
Both played most qualifying comps
Both were lucky to make buffer week in week out. The occasional small cut here and there
Within 18 months of each other they both had the round of their lives and never got close to it again.

Sure, it's not common but to say it categorically can't happen is very foolish.
 
We know someone who was given a handicap of 25 from legitimate cards. Won nothing then end of season. Over winter played loads, had lessons and practiced. Got 50 points in first outing and was cut to 12.
 
Still not having it. Yes, there is the very odd occasion where someone has the round of their life, and comes in with a gross 73 or 74, or 45/46 points. I have had a few of these at my club, and they are usually 12 to 15 handicappers where everything has gone right on the day. But a 21 handicapper shooting a gross 74 for 53 pts......nah.
 
If he is a massive bandit then why would he shoot such a high score in a monthly stableford?

Surely if he was protecting a handicap he'd throw a few shots away if he knew he was doing so well and keep it lower to not raise as many suspicions, still win and not get as much of a cut?
 
PhilTheFragger said:
I'm guessing that this is a rapidly improving golfer who had a red letter day when everything dropped.

Sometimes the handicap system can't keep up,
Be good to know his history, but there can be a different explanation apart from massive bandito
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The guy is as genuine as they come, he just had a day when everything went right.
 
didsbury_duffer said:
Sorry, not having it, and I'm a Comps & Handicap convenor. 21 handicappers just don't shoot 74, even on red letter days when everything goes right, or even if he has been practicing all winter and getting lessons. The guy has to be a new member who put 3 dodgy handicap cards in, or he's entered his score into the computer incorrectly, or your C&H guy needs replacing very quickly before the rest of the members kick-off.
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I am the handicap secretary and you will have to take my word that the guy is not a bandit. He is well known and well liked at the club. No one saw this coming, nothing in the annual review or any pattern of suspicious behaviour in order to protect his handicap. Its just one of those things. When I was 24 I had a 74 playing off 16. I was holing everything , chipping in from off the green, etc.

No one kicked off today, there was a serious amount of banter as you can imagine but it was all in good spirits really.
 
Sounds like the guy had 'one of those days' to me - good on him.
I say this with the experience of having a good friend of mine knock 54 points in playing off 28. It really was unbelievable at first but became laughable as he is terrible at golf, he has had exactly 2 cuts in his 15 year golfing life worth mentioning! He holed a bunker shot on the first for 4 points then holed a long putt on the second for 3, this was followed by what will always remain the luckiest shot I have ever seen - he hit his 145 yard uphill approach way over the green with a 3 wood, hit a lump of limestone shot up and came back to the fringe from where it rolled into the hole - 2 shot hole, 6 points! And on it continued - IT HAPPENS - get over it. 7 years and steadily rising up from his cut of 21 to 23 he shot 6 over gross in a medal.
It is a shame that people jump on things like this as I would like to think that the day I have a dream round people congratulate me not call me a cheat. Aren't us golfers inherently honest anyway?
 
splashtryagain said:
Sounds like the guy had 'one of those days' to me - good on him.
I say this with the experience of having a good friend of mine knock 54 points in playing off 28. It really was unbelievable at first but became laughable as he is terrible at golf, he has had exactly 2 cuts in his 15 year golfing life worth mentioning! He holed a bunker shot on the first for 4 points then holed a long putt on the second for 3, this was followed by what will always remain the luckiest shot I have ever seen - he hit his 145 yard uphill approach way over the green with a 3 wood, hit a lump of limestone shot up and came back to the fringe from where it rolled into the hole - 2 shot hole, 6 points! And on it continued - IT HAPPENS - get over it. 7 years and steadily rising up from his cut of 21 to 23 he shot 6 over gross in a medal.
It is a shame that people jump on things like this as I would like to think that the day I have a dream round people congratulate me not call me a cheat. Aren't us golfers inherently honest anyway?
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:thup: This guy is no cheat.

Player record for recent period.......

 
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