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I guess it gives those that cant play in scratch comps something worthwhile to play for and to ensure the game isnt just about the elitist amongst us
53 points!
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I guess it gives those that cant play in scratch comps something worthwhile to play for and to ensure the game isnt just about the elitist amongst us
Green Bay Hacker
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Our invitation day last year saw one pair come in with 52 points but they were dq'd as the invited player had an inactive handicap through injury.
FairwayDodger
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Nothing elitist about stating that 21 handicappers don't shoot 74.
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But stating its pointless caring about winning handicap comps ? They are the main comps that i reckon 80-90% of clubs golfers can win
FairwayDodger
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Because the handicap system is only any good if handicaps are accurate. In this case it has clearly failed.
mcbroon
Journeyman Pro
Gross 74 off 21 is stretching the bounds of credulity.
hovis
Tour Winner
One of my playing partners is that bad at golf he has earned the nick name " hacker khan" he is a 26 handicap and once shot a 50 in a comp. It was most certainly a one off and has never scored above 30 points in 14 months since . He just had one of those days
virtuocity
Tour Winner
3 weeks ago I was a 21 handicapper and I shot 78 gross yesterday including an OOB on the 10th which I've parred the last 3 rounds, which would have been a 75 gross.
Call me a bandit.
It CAN happen. He could have worked really hard over the winter and maybe not played much until this weekend.
Only after my score this weekend can I understand the frustration of Cat 1 players though.
Call me a bandit.
It CAN happen. He could have worked really hard over the winter and maybe not played much until this weekend.
Only after my score this weekend can I understand the frustration of Cat 1 players though.
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And the system will catch up with them - we dont know the full situation in regards the player.
The system isnt perfect but it tries to level the playing field.There will always be one offs.
hovis
Tour Winner
I find when you play with one of those players it becomes apparent quickly if they are a bandit or a high handicapper that gets it together now and then
pbrown7582
Money List Winner
He could give Tom Muldoon a game.
Was thinking the same thing
Look out for daily mail story ..... :lol:
FairwayDodger
Money List Winner
3 weeks ago I was a 21 handicapper and I shot 78 gross yesterday including an OOB on the 10th which I've parred the last 3 rounds, which would have been a 75 gross.
Call me a bandit.
It CAN happen. He could have worked really hard over the winter and maybe not played much until this weekend.
Only after my score this weekend can I understand the frustration of Cat 1 players though.
I'm quite deliberately not calling anyone a bandit. The point is that the handicap system has failed dramatically in this instance, for reasons unknown. Your 78 probably raised eyebrows and was, I imagine, the round of your life so far but there is still a world of difference between that and 74.
Alan P Mills
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53pts, I'd be scared to enter my score. Lol :temper:
didsbury_duffer
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Sorry, not having it, and I'm a Comps & Handicap convenor. 21 handicappers just don't shoot 74, even on red letter days when everything goes right, or even if he has been practicing all winter and getting lessons. The guy has to be a new member who put 3 dodgy handicap cards in, or he's entered his score into the computer incorrectly, or your C&H guy needs replacing very quickly before the rest of the members kick-off.
Leereed
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I play off 17 and have played to single figures several times.my problem is 2 or 3 holes will do me every week.But 17 shots under handicap is a lot.when you think off 21 he should not in theory par one hole.but well played all the same.
I'd imagine his course is a par 70, so 4 over par.
21 handicappers dont shoot 4 over par, not even in bounce games! it's so alien to them the nerves would blow up, plus theres a reason he's 21- nothing wrong with a 21 handicap (I started at 18 and dropped very quickly) but all his game would have to be in very good form and off 21 thats highly unlikely.
Theres more to this than meets the eye.
21 handicappers dont shoot 4 over par, not even in bounce games! it's so alien to them the nerves would blow up, plus theres a reason he's 21- nothing wrong with a 21 handicap (I started at 18 and dropped very quickly) but all his game would have to be in very good form and off 21 thats highly unlikely.
Theres more to this than meets the eye.
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Or he has had the round of his life with chips dropping or sinking a second shot with lucky bounces etc
Or he is a junior who is improving greatly at a fast rate due to hard work on the practice ground
Jack_bfc
Challenge Tour Pro
I am playing off 22 club and 17 for my society.
I have only scored under 90 gross twice ever, last year an 88 at North Shore(which got me the 4 shot cut for the society) and a bizarre 82 at Blackpool Park containing 9 pars in a friendly game.
But that 53 points does seem beyond belief...
I have only scored under 90 gross twice ever, last year an 88 at North Shore(which got me the 4 shot cut for the society) and a bizarre 82 at Blackpool Park containing 9 pars in a friendly game.
But that 53 points does seem beyond belief...
Ian_S
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If I was a betting man I'd say he's entered his net scores rather than gross. That's got to happen more often than a 21 capper shooting 74.
On the subject of it being pointless entering handicap comps, a 5 capper at our club won our comp this week with a 72, net 67. He's a good lad, but like many on here, is always sniping about how it's impossible for him to win unless something's done about the bandits, an attitude which usually comes from hearing about stories like this than any objective look at who actually wins comps.
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
Oh we are a suspicious, cynical lot aren't we...?
I've played with a 28'er who shot 50 points
And a 25'er who was +3 in a Medal.....
It has happened, it does happen.
The time to criticise the Handicap system is if he does it again..
I've played with a 28'er who shot 50 points
And a 25'er who was +3 in a Medal.....
It has happened, it does happen.
The time to criticise the Handicap system is if he does it again..
