5 day green fee ticket V 7 day green fee ticket?

[rapper]

Our course is run by the local council but or golf club is run by a separate body to the council.
Obviously 5 day ticket holders are usually seniors who don't work and 7 day ticket holders are the working people.
We are trying to persuade 5 day ticket member to become 7 day ticket members with out the council loosing revenue and without upsetting the 7 day ticket holders ,by offering an incentive to change from 5 to 7 day ticket holders.
95% of the main comps.which include all the prizes on offer, are denied the 5 day memebers...how can we entice the 5 day people to change to 7 days ,therefore only having a 7 day ticket available?
Tricky or what???

 

[fundy]

why do you need to? why not continue to offer the 5 day membership if it is desired by your customers?

 

[Grieve14]

I agree - Why do you need to?

The current 5 day members probably arent interested in becoming 7 day members, otherwise they would have already done so.

 

[rosecott]

About 3/4 of our seniors are 5-day members - the other 1/4 who are 7-day members play in both weekday and weekend competitions. The Seniors have their own day on Fridays and have their own trophy competitions which are separate from club trophy competitions and are open to over 55s only. We also organise qualifiers and a few trophy competitions on Tuesdays for all 5-day members (including Seniors and non-Seniors).

If you have a decent number of 5-day members they can be organised into a Seniors section - still part of the club - and start arranging trophy competitions. There's nothing to stop those 5-day members opting to switch to 7-day to play in both sets of trophy competitions. Your issue seems to be that nothing is being done to organise things for those who do not want to play at weekends.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

I presume the aim is to bolster numbers playing weekend comps, possibly also to bolster revenue.

 

[Old Skier]

I think some real though needs to be put into this along with the ladies sections. Due to the fact that more and more people will not be retiring early and will either be in parttime and full time employment these sections are likely to reduce in size over time as the opportunity to play during the week will surely diminish.

 

[351DRIVER]

Let them pay a green fee for weekend comps only at a preferred rate, so if they are free they can take part

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Let them pay a green fee for weekend comps only at a preferred rate, so if they are free they can take part

That seems a fair compromise and would increase weekend competition numbers, especially in the summer

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Let them pay a green fee for weekend comps only at a preferred rate, so if they are free they can take part

Not a bad plan on the face of it, but it could entice 7 day members to drop to 5 day membership and then pay for a few comps and save themselves a bit of money.

 

[351DRIVER]

Not a bad plan on the face of it, but it could entice 7 day members to drop to 5 day membership and then pay for a few comps and save themselves a bit of money.

Sure it needs terms added, but that could be done i am sure, must be a 5 day member of 3 years standing, not available to anyone that has downgraded their membership in past 3 years.. or charge more for people that have switched..

I do not think you are fundamentally going to push people from a 5 to a 7 day membership when they have had the option and made a choice, i think you would end up pushing them from a 5 day to a no longer play there arrangement

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Sure it needs terms added, but that could be done i am sure, must be a 5 day member of 3 years standing, not available to anyone that has downgraded their membership in past 3 years.. or charge more for people that have switched..

I do not think you are fundamentally going to push people from a 5 to a 7 day membership when they have had the option and made a choice, i think you would end up pushing them from a 5 day to a no longer play there arrangement

Agree mate, just thought about some of the guys on here who initially join and plan to play loads, then at the end of the season for genuine reasons play very few comps or weekends at all, shift workers etc.

 

[rapper]

[aQUOTE=351DRIVER;1617733]Sure it needs terms added, but that could be done i am sure, must be a 5 day member of 3 years standing, not available to anyone that has downgraded their membership in past 3 years.. or charge more for people that have switched..

I do not think you are fundamentally going to push people from a 5 to a 7 day membership when they have had the option and made a choice, i think you would end up pushing them from a 5 day to a no longer play there arrangement[/QUOTE]

Thanks for your reply I think there is some meat on this bone. The problem we have is that we all pay the same price for our membership of the club but the 7 day ticket holders have the chance to play in all the major comps that carry all the prizes ,i.e. captains day ,open days etc ,you know the ones... which are always played for on a weekend, yes us 5 day ticket holders can play but have to pay the going rate for the weekend day ticket, and when the committee is questioned about this their stock reply is " Its Historical, they have always been played on a weekend" full stop
All the money for the prizes in these comps are raised by comp entries, raffles football cards etc which all the 5 day ticket holders contribute to...as well as the 7 day ticket holders
Surely there is a compromise....
I would say 100% of funds raised that go towards the prizes on these days go to the benefit of the 7 day ticket holder...this was how it was when the clubbed open 50 yrs ago,but times have changed....

 

[full_throttle]

[aQUOTE=351DRIVER;1617733]Sure it needs terms added, but that could be done i am sure, must be a 5 day member of 3 years standing, not available to anyone that has downgraded their membership in past 3 years.. or charge more for people that have switched..

I do not think you are fundamentally going to push people from a 5 to a 7 day membership when they have had the option and made a choice, i think you would end up pushing them from a 5 day to a no longer play there arrangement

Thanks for your reply I think there is some meat on this bone. The problem we have is that we all pay the same price for our membership of the club but the 7 day ticket holders have the chance to play in all the major comps that carry all the prizes ,i.e. captains day ,open days etc ,you know the ones... which are always played for on a weekend, yes us 5 day ticket holders can play but have to pay the going rate for the weekend day ticket, and when the committee is questioned about this their stock reply is " Its Historical, they have always been played on a weekend" full stop
All the money for the prizes in these comps are raised by comp entries, raffles football cards etc which all the 5 day ticket holders contribute to...as well as the 7 day ticket holders
Surely there is a compromise....
I would say 100% of funds raised that go towards the prizes on these days go to the benefit of the 7 day ticket holder...this was how it was when the clubbed open 50 yrs ago,but times have changed....[/QUOTE]

This is interesting, and if correct why would anyone choose to be only a 5 day ticket holder?

 

[chrisd]

I know one or two clubs who have done away with 5 and 7 day categories. So, you could average the price so the 5 days pay a bit more ,the 7 day a bit less and anyone can play whenever they choose, I know it works well enough at a private members course close to me

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Thanks for your reply I think there is some meat on this bone. The problem we have is that we all pay the same price for our membership of the club but the 7 day ticket holders have the chance to play in all the major comps that carry all the prizes ,i.e. captains day ,open days etc ,you know the ones... which are always played for on a weekend, yes us 5 day ticket holders can play but have to pay the going rate for the weekend day ticket, and when the committee is questioned about this their stock reply is " Its Historical, they have always been played on a weekend" full stop
All the money for the prizes in these comps are raised by comp entries, raffles football cards etc which all the 5 day ticket holders contribute to...as well as the 7 day ticket holders
Surely there is a compromise....
I would say 100% of funds raised that go towards the prizes on these days go to the benefit of the 7 day ticket holder...this was how it was when the clubbed open 50 yrs ago,but times have changed....

Rather than get the council to change it's payment structure you could consider your club change it's membership structure to reduce membership fees for 5 day season ticket holders. This will enable 5 day members additional cash to play at weekends.
Sounds like the pair of you need to get round a table and talk about mutual benefits.

 

[Wayman]

I know one or two clubs who have done away with 5 and 7 day categories. So, you could average the price so the 5 days pay a bit more ,the 7 day a bit less and anyone can play whenever they choose, I know it works well enough at a private members course close to me

Club near me has done this and personally I think it works well

 

[351DRIVER]

So if both groups pay the same and have different rights, tell all the 5 day ticket holders at no extra cost you can now play 7 days

That is weird and then some
Why the hell would they both pay the same?

 

[fundy]

So if both groups pay the same and have different rights, tell all the 5 day ticket holders at no extra cost you can now play 7 days

That is weird and then some
Why the hell would they both pay the same?

if im reading it right i think its a municipal course where you buy a season ticket to play the course and then a membership fee to the club that runs there. the season ticket varies between 5 and 7 day, cost of membership to the club is the same for both hence the disparity.

 

[duncan mackie]

There simply isn't any issue here Rapper - unless the club membership fee is used to fund competition prizes (which in your response above you don't suggest).

From experience (27 years membership of similar structure Inc 10 on committee) there were just as many fully employed individuals who only played mid week as there were seniors who played weekends - inc cab drivers, other shift workers etc

Whilst we ran all of the normal events as alternate days ones over Fri- Monday this was as much to include those that only played Sat or Sunday as it was to cover midweek players. As you highlight everyone had to make their own arrangements for the 'trophy events' and these were divided across sat and sun through the season with any midweek ticket player's entering as they wished.

Fundamentally all competitions should be self funding - if the balance has slipped here (with those partially funded from fund raisers) some of those funds should go to midweek events!

 

[rapper]

thanks for your reply but I would love you to clarify your comments a little please..contact me direct please.