4BBB 3/4 Handicap

[3offTheTee]

Most of us are aware I think that we play off 3/4 handicap in a 4BBB.

However we had a discussion at our Club regarding a County Player who plays off Plus 4. Logically he would play off +5 and someone who plays off +3 would play off +4.

The reverse I was told is true. ie they play off +3 and +2 respectively which is a huge advantage.

This may not affect many of us but is anyone else aware of this and if so where is the relevant ruling

 

[SammmeBee]

Match Play, Stroke Play or Stableford?

 

[3offTheTee]

4BBB Stableford

 

[DCB]

Interesting problem. I must say in all my years playing golf, I've never come across anyone that low in anything other than a Medal Strokeplay competition.

Lowest I've ever managed too put off their game was +2 and that was something to behold. A different game altogether.

 

[3offTheTee]

DCB. The guy in question actually plays off +3. He played in a 4BBB Mixed Open with his daughter and won.He played off +2.

Some of our members' were not too pleased!

 

[DCB]

Rub of the green I would say.

Oh to be in that position !

 

[jammydodger]

DCB. The guy in question actually plays off +3. He played in a 4BBB Mixed Open with his daughter and won.He played off +2.

Some of our members' were not too pleased!

How on earth did the organisers let him get away with that ? Must be nice to play in a 3/4 h/c comp and actually get a stroke back .....total c**k up by the committee

 

[3offTheTee]

What I am trying to find out is the following:

Please resd initial post but WHY does someone off +3 play off +2 when it is 3/4 handicap.

No one has come up with a reasonable explanation which is unlike all you 'golfies' on here

 

[Leftie]

No one has come up with a reasonable explanation which is unlike all you 'golfies' on here

Probably because it can't be explained other than it is wrong.

Playing off 3/4 h/cap means that the course is made harder by 1/4 your h/cap so for a 4 h/capper it is made harder by 1 shot i.e. he plays off 3 so logically a +4 player has to play off +5 and a +3 player off +3.75 i.e. +4.

Simples

 

[jammydodger]

No one has come up with a reasonable explanation which is unlike all you 'golfies' on here

Probably because it can't be explained other than it is wrong.

Nail on head

 

[JollysHeld1]

No one has come up with a reasonable explanation which is unlike all you 'golfies' on here

Probably because it can't be explained other than it is wrong.

Playing off 3/4 h/cap means that the course is made harder by 1/4 your h/cap so for a 4 h/capper it is made harder by 1 shot i.e. he plays off 3 so logically a +4 player has to play off +5 and a +3 player off +3.75 i.e. +4.

Simples

Exactly! just remember that the adjustment is in the same direction to all players and apply it to a numberline of shots recieved.

-5 -4 -3 -2 -1 0 +1 +2 +3 +4 +5

Shots recieved for both players moves to the left 1 place for +4 or -4 so someone with a 4 hcp recieves 3 and someone with a +4 hcp gives back 5

It's still a little muddy

JollysH1

 

[Dan24]

Hi,
Sorry my first post is to disagree with you all, but the reduction from +4 to +3 at 3/4 h'cap is correct. There is logic behind this too.

3/4 h'caps are used to reduce the amount of shots a better has in effect got to give a lesser player. Following the logic of previous post a +4 h'capper would play off 5 less than a scatch player, whereas the scatch player would only play off 3 less than a 4 h'capper.

An example is in match play, where it is the relevant fraction of the difference.

Hope this makes sense.

Regards
Dan

 

[andiritchie]

Good first post!

Welcome to the forum BTW

 

[Leftie]

Welcome to the forum Dan.

It's late, the Merlot has kicked in but...

The OP was about a Stableford comp played off 3/4 h/cap. I think that this is completely different to the matchplay you mention where the 3/4 h/cap difference in a 4bbb is taken from the lowest handicaper.