2 Comps, 1 Round?

[FairwayDodger]

Need a ruling here folks!

I *really* don't want to do this but am having loads of trouble arranging a singles tie and with club championships monopolising the course next week it's not looking good.

However, my opponent and I are playing together in the monthly medal. A bad idea on many levels, I know, but is there any reason, under the rules, why we can't use that round for our match as well as the medal?

 

[bigslice]

if it doesnt say it in your club rules then fine, otherwise not good. really not good really really not good

 

[fundy]

yep, cant play strokeplay and matchplay in the same round

 

[BTatHome]

Why? Because there is no point playing a Matchplay game when your not playing a match against one another.

Might as well toss a coin.

 

[Foxholer]

Need a ruling here folks!

I *really* don't want to do this but am having loads of trouble arranging a singles tie and with club championships monopolising the course next week it's not looking good.

However, my opponent and I are playing together in the monthly medal. A bad idea on many levels, I know, but is there any reason, under the rules, why we can't use that round for our match as well as the medal?

Yes.

You should be disqualified from both comps!

 

[FairwayDodger]

Why? Because there is no point playing a Matchplay game when your not playing a match against one another.

Might as well toss a coin.

I agree - it's just a thought and would be last resort..... seems better than tossing a coin to me. But a very bad idea, as stated. I'd imagine playing some shots with an eye on the match, others more worried about the medal and end up screwing up in both.

 

[FairwayDodger]

Yes.

You should be disqualified from both comps!

OK. But is that an opinion or can you point out the relevant rule? I'm struggling to find anything.

 

[BTatHome]

I agree - it's just a thought and would be last resort..... seems better than tossing a coin to me. But a very bad idea, as stated. I'd imagine playing some shots with an eye on the match, others more worried about the medal and end up screwing up in both.

The strategy of Matchplay would be lost.

 

[FairwayDodger]

The strategy of Matchplay would be lost.

That would depend. We could concentrate on the match, albeit to the detriment of our medal rounds.

 

[BTatHome]

Not possible if one of you incurs a penalty, they are usually different for stroke and Matchplay.

 

[BTatHome]

33-1. Conditions; Waiving Rule
The Committee must establish the conditions under which a competition is to be played.

The Committee has no power to waive a Rule of Golf.

Certain specific Rules governing stroke play are so substantially different from those governing match play that combining the two forms of play is not practicable and is not permitted. The result of a match played in these circumstances is null and void and, in the stroke play competition, the competitors are disqualified.

 

[FairwayDodger]

Not possible if one of you incurs a penalty, they are usually different for stroke and Matchplay.

Yeah but usually where they differ the match play version is "lose the hole" so not really a problem strategy-wise.

 

[FairwayDodger]

33-1. Conditions; Waiving Rule
The Committee must establish the conditions under which a competition is to be played.

The Committee has no power to waive a Rule of Golf.

Certain specific Rules governing stroke play are so substantially different from those governing match play that combining the two forms of play is not practicable and is not permitted. The result of a match played in these circumstances is null and void and, in the stroke play competition, the competitors are disqualified.

Excellent - thanks for that!

Really didn't want to do this anyway!

 

[rosecott]

OK. But is that an opinion or can you point out the relevant rule? I'm struggling to find anything.

33-1.

 

[FairwayDodger]

Thanks folks. Now.... does anyone know how to bend the rules of Space/Time so we can get this tie played?

:mmm: :lol:

 

[BTatHome]

Have had this problem twice, first time I cancelled my place in the medal and played the Matchplay instead. Second time I played the medal and then had a 2 hour lunch and played the Matchplay late afternoon.

 

[FairwayDodger]

Have had this problem twice, first time I cancelled my place in the medal and played the Matchplay instead. Second time I played the medal and then had a 2 hour lunch and played the Matchplay late afternoon.

Might try the latter. We'd originally planned to play the tie instead of the medal but it turns out it's a block booking for the medal. So we rearranged but that date got cancelled for child care reasons and now we're up against it somewhat.

 

[rosecott]

I agree - it's just a thought and would be last resort..... seems better than tossing a coin to me. But a very bad idea, as stated. I'd imagine playing some shots with an eye on the match, others more worried about the medal and end up screwing up in both.

Having quoted 33-1, here's a pragmatic thought. If you both agree - and tell no-one else apart from all the forummers here - to play the medal under strokeplay rules, and decide the outcome of each hole on the score achieved, you could have a matchplay outcome. Don't tell anyone else I suggested it.

 

[FairwayDodger]

Ah, but now 33-1 has been quoted I'd know, and you'd know.... and Bagger Vance would know....

 

[rosecott]

Ah, but now 33-1 has been quoted I'd know, and you'd know.... and Bagger Vance would know....

But maybe no-one else at your club is a forummer - take a chance.