£64 m!

[matt71]

As a die hard united fan I am excited we are getting some decent players in but I am aghast to the waste of money we are spending on de Maria!


After another poor showing today it clearly showed where we need to strength and this purchase is not the answer !


Instead of going for the league we look relegation material and next weeks game against burnley is now a 6 pointer!


Sorry for the moan but not felt this bad about my team since the late 80's


Thanks for reading

 

[Foxholer]

It does seem to be a very confused Club at the moment!

On the one hand vG is (correctly imo) stating that the squad is unbalanced, with something like 6 #9s and 5 #10s. But then he goes out and buys another (star) forward when it's obvious that the major 'problems' are elsewhere on the field!

I'd certainly buy into his 'it's not an overnight job' philosophy, but he doesn't seem to be addressing the problems with any real sense of priority!

Sunderland did an excellent job of nullifying them yesterday, but I'd fear it wasn't all that difficult. Sunderland's goal came from a pinpoint cross/corner and involved a nice feint but a quality defence wouldn't have fallen for that so easily or would have had additional cover for that move. Rooney had another very quiet/almost invisible day. He's not the inspiring sort of Captain Beckham was - and don't think ever will be. There's some obvious quality in the squad, but it's certainly not shining!

Their Annual Report is due out pretty soon and I think the media is likely to take a negative approach to that - even if profit is up on the £65m from last year. The loss of the CL cash will hurt them, though there was £200m raised via a share issue/sale a few months ago - so quite a war-chest. With the transfer window closing shortly, I would have expected to see a lot more activity, but the way the di Maria signing has been handled might mean they have just kept things quieter than others!

As vG has stated, the next 3 months will be difficult and it will be a miracle if they win the league, but expect an improvement, if not a title shot. The January transfer window could be a busy time for them - just hope it's driven by the same management team!

 

[pbrown7582]

Frightening waste of £££'s in last 12 months. Starting with Fellanini then mata to certain extent a decent player but not one that was needed.

 

[road2ruin]

To be honest I would disagree that he's not required as so far United have shown a complete lack of pace and penetration. I think Di Maria will give the attacking intent that is missing.

What I would agree with is that he doesn't solve the issue. United still need to invest in a quality CM (Vidal) and a couple of defenders (Blind/Hummels type players). If they can bring in these addition 3 on top of Di Maria then sort out the casualty list then things will improve dramatically.

 

[Crazyface]

These things go in cycles. Manure have had their time. It's going to be a few years of rebuilding and suffering. LMFAO !!!!!

 

[Beezerk]

de Maria is an excellent player IMO but frustrating to watch, whenever I see him play he's always trying the 40 yard screamer rather than do the "team" thing.

 

[DangerousDave86]

He is correct in the sense that the squad is unbalanced, but if you look at the number of players at #9 and #10's as quoted the Beeb:

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[TD="class: left first"]Javier Hernandez - Squad player

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[TD="class: left"] Marouane Fellaini - Not a No 10

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[TD="class: left first"] Robin van Persie - World Class

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[TD="class: left"] Adnan Januzaj - Not a No 10

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[TD="class: left first"] Danny Welbeck - Not good enough

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[TD="class: left"] Shinji Kagawa - Not used enough

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[TD="class: left first"] James Wilson - Not established

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[TD="class: left"] Juan Mata - World Class

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[TD="class: left first"] Angelo Henriquez (on loan at Dinamo Zagreb) - Not established

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[TD="class: left"] Nick Powell - Not established

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[TD="class: left"] Wayne Rooney - World Class (On his day)


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So out of the 11 "forward players", 2 aren't really forward players and only 3 are world class. Welbeck needs to go, and the youngsters need to be given a chance or got shot of. Need defenders, and STOP PLAYING 3 AT THE BACK. Smalling and Rafael and good enough, should'nt have sold Buttner and since Shaw is injured there's no designated LB. Jones and Evans need to work on CB understanding. Be interesting to see how Rojo gets on.

 

[Foxholer]

Need defenders, and STOP PLAYING 3 AT THE BACK. Smalling and Rafael and good enough, should'nt have sold Buttner and since Shaw is injured there's no designated LB. Jones and Evans need to work on CB understanding. Be interesting to see how Rojo gets on.

Certainly need 'Bossing' ones - decision-makers/organisers/leaders of the Adams/Terry/Kompany mould. Oddly, it (defence) is one of the areas where Rooney does excellent work as well as his 'normal' role!

I think vG may actually be reasonably happy playing 3 at the back for the benefits the extra the extra player gives further up the field. It wasn't that that allowed Sunderland to score yesterday.

Still waiting expectantly to hear some late signings of stars in Midfield and Defence though! And some ditching of the excess mentioned above!

 

[jp5]

Doing worse than Moyes at the moment! Wonder if he'll receive the same criticism.

 

[garyinderry]

crazy money! when will this madness stop?

 

[matt71]

Doing worse than Moyes at the moment! Wonder if he'll receive the same criticism.

Getting it it from me! Under Moyes we were just clueless but had some shape. Under lvg we have nothing and the fact he just sits in the dugout without getting up and about to adjust things is not building me with confidence!

i can accept us not winning games but the lack of ability and ideas is appalling!We actually only had one shot on target yesterday and that was the goal!

 

[bladeplayer]

we can talk of moyes and van gall all we want but how much of this is down to the short sightedness or living in the now of fergie ?
Personally and i did say it here , i thought moyes was mad to take the job ,

Unless they buy a few others , with 2 CB & 2 CMF then the di maria purchase wont make much difference IMO

Cian are you listening to me yet matey

 

[bladeplayer]

Getting it it from me! Under Moyes we were just clueless but had some shape. Under lvg we have nothing and the fact he just sits in the dugout without getting up and about to adjust things is not building me with confidence!

i can accept us not winning games but the lack of ability and ideas is appalling!We actually only had one shot on target yesterday and that was the goal!

Under moyes your premadonnas threw the toys out of the cot and refused to play well , thought they were just hurting the manager , in fact they were hurting the image of the club and selling their supporters short ..

 

[pbrown7582]

These things go in cycles. Manure have had their time. It's going to be a few years of rebuilding and suffering. LMFAO !!!!!

I see the anti man united bias maybe that explains you trying to kill simon at hillside.

 

[matt71]

Under moyes your premadonnas threw the toys out of the cot and refused to play well , thought they were just hurting the manager , in fact they were hurting the image of the club and selling their supporters short ..

Unable to disagree with that! Fergie has a lot to blame for the mess we are in!

 

[BTatHome]

Doing worse than Moyes at the moment! Wonder if he'll receive the same criticism.

Making comparisons after just two league games?

 

[Foxholer]

Unable to disagree with that! Fergie has a lot to blame for the mess we are in!

H'mm. If you want to 'blame' him for the huge amount of success they had under his management, then I think he'd be happy to take that blame. He picked a pretty good time to 'retire' but it wasn't him that caused the damage last year! He'd have sorted that out with a quick hair-dryer and boot effort!

Unfortunately Moyes wasn't up to the task - and it has seriously damaged both MU and Moyes (would/could he take on the Palace job?).

They have now got the sort of Manager they should have got to follow Fergie, but how much corrective surgery and rehab will be needed - and whether 'the patient' will ever fully recover - is pretty unclear currently!

 

[bladeplayer]

H'mm. If you want to 'blame' him for the huge amount of success they had under his management, then I think he'd be happy to take that blame. He picked a pretty good time to 'retire' but it wasn't him that caused the damage last year! He'd have sorted that out with a quick hair-dryer and boot effort!

Unfortunately Moyes wasn't up to the task - and it has seriously damaged both MU and Moyes (would/could he take on the Palace job?).

They have now got the sort of Manager they should have got to follow Fergie, but how much corrective surgery and rehab will be needed - and whether 'the patient' will ever fully recover - is pretty unclear currently!

Why do you say he picked a pretty good time to retire if you think the squad he had was capable of keeping success flowing ..

i do agree with you that he picked a good time retire , because he had slowly replace the quality he had with inferior players and when it as time for these inferior players to step up to the mark they were found wanting ..

Not anti utd or a utd fan in equal measure , i looked at the team moyes was inheriting and position for position at the in too many positions it was weaker than the team he left ..
Fergie timed his escape perfectly

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Dose anyone know the genuine prices paid to buy a Barclays or Sky Bet football club these days.

Are we getting to the stage where individual players are worth more than the entire team.

With the exemption of Celtic I think £64m would probably buy every team in the Scottish Leagues.

 

[Durango]

It's £48m plus add ons. Which is the going rate if you want to sign world class players. At least United are using their own money on signings, unlike the oil clubs Chelsea and Man City spending someone else's. Fellaini and Mata were signings that weren't needed but di Maria should be a class apart if used correctly. Just need some physical strength now in midfield as the current lot are way below par.