Recent content by Steven Rules

Yes it is. I am not a fan of the descriptions in the graphic above. The defintions of teeing area and putting green, in particular, don't tell the full story. The teeing area is just the the small defined piece of land between the tee markers (not tee boxes) and two club lengths deep that the...

I see the point you are making, but that is not how I interpret it. Where can I find guidance on what constitutes 'being repaired'?

We have (rightly) transitioned from a question about the impact of a Local Rule on a ball embedded in a stacked turf face of a bunker, to a discussion about the extent of GUR, and the Committee's role in making clear the extent of that GUR. In the first instance, we need to squash the idea that...

Cor Blimey! I am not going to flog this but they are not the words of the poster; they are the words in the Rules of Golf - 16.1c. It is not opinion; it is fact. (But, shucks, thanks for thinking I'm an expert.) The heading of 16.1c uses the words (and I quote) "...ball in bunker" and the first...

I am sensing more confusion here. Certainly I am confused. What do you mean by 'stance relief' and 'allowed to drop his ball in the bunker relative to his new stance position'?

The presence or absence of water has nothing to do with it. Penalty areas do not need to contain water. Correct. Relief options for a ball in a penalty area are covered in Rule 17. I am afraid that this term provides no clarity. It is not a term used in the Rules of Golf. Again, poor use of...

No. In the old days, hazards were either bunkers or water hazards. That terminology ceased in 2019.

No. See Rule 2.2 for an explanation of the five areas of the course.

Somebody is confused here. It may be me misunderstanding what you are saying. If you are standing in temporary water in the general area, you are entitled to free relief - except when your ball is in a penalty area. The location of the relief area will depend on which area of the course your...

The requirement that overrides all others is that, for a ball in a bunker, the relief area (for free relief) must also be in the same bunker. Unlike in the general area, the requirement for 'complete relief' in a bunker is not absolute. When complete relief is not possible, the reference point...

It doesn't feel right because it isn't right. Let me try amd simplify it further. If there is interference (ball, stance, or area of intended swing) from an abnormal course condition: *If the ball is in the general area, the relief area must be in the general area. *If the ball is in a bunker...

You are absolutely entitled to free relief from the saturated ground (assuming it meets the definition of temporary water) but, because the ball is in a bunker, the relief area must also be in the same bunker.

The scenario is specifically covered by 16.1c. The ball is in a bunker; it is irrelevant which area of the course the feet and stance are in. As you are already familiar with 16.1c, my recommendation is that you read again the second bullet point of 16.1c(1) and the definition of 'point of...

The difference between this scenario and the OP is that (presumably) all these sequential scenarios involve the ball in the general area (Rule 16.1b). Whereas SILH's ball is in the bunker, so all free relief options must remain in the bunker (Rule 16.1c).

No. The ball is in the bunker, so follow the rules for abnormal course conditions in the bunker (Rule 16.1c) regardless of where the stance is. Free relief when dropping the ball in the bunker (no closer to the hole than the original position of the ball). Penalty relief to take relief outside...